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Old 01-23-2009, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Procedure for charging or replacing battery

My battery has been slowly dying over time since I stopped driving my car often. It's been pretty cold here and last two times I started it I could tell it was getting worse. Well..the last two weeks have been REALLY cold and when I went to start it yesterday the battery is dead.

I know I've read some posts about folks having hardships after trying to jump or just replace the battery so I was wondering the exact steps I should take to get it started and replace the battery if necessary.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 01-23-2009, 11:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I use battery tenders for my bike and car Dan. They're great and not that expensive. It charges and recycles continiously. Both of mine are plugged in right now and I'm using the permanent eyelet connections. All I have to do is plug it to the unit.

I found my car seems to drain over time even in a heated garage and I've only started it 4 times over the past year. Prior to getting the battery tender my voltage would be low.

One of the ones I have is called SmartShot 900 - Battery Charger/Maintainer:
  • Wall receptacle 3 level battery charger
  • Reaches 14.4 volt peak then automatically switches to storage
  • Solid State 3 LED display tells you charge status at a glance
  • Output: 12VDC @ 900mA
  • Input: 120VAC @ 60Hz
  • Fully charges battery automatically
  • Maintains full charge indefinately
  • Includes quick connect rings and alligator clips
  • Designed to prevent overcharging your 12 volt battery
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Thanks, Bernie. Not a bad idea since I now have two cars out there that are going to sit more than be driven.

Some folks over on the other board are suggesting a trickle charger. I re-queued the question and asked if I can just go ahead and stick it right on without affecting any of the electronics or settings. I've read some pretty nasty stories about people just 'jump starting' or replacing batteries in these cars.

Take care..

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A jump can cause all kinds of problems, but it is easy to reduce the risks.

When jumping, make sure the good vehicle is turned off before you try to start the dead car. It's that simple. Run the jumper vehicle all you want, but don't EVER have both vehicles running at the same time or while trying to start the dead one.

With the dead battery, a long slow charge over 24 hours or so at less than 2 or 3 amps may bring it back. The modern chargers pulse to condition the battery, so a good one can help a lot! At low amps leave it connected. High amps take it out of the car!
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A jump can cause all kinds of problems, but it is easy to reduce the risks.

When jumping, make sure the good vehicle is turned off before you try to start the dead car. It's that simple. Run the jumper vehicle all you want, but don't EVER have both vehicles running at the same time or while trying to start the dead one.

With the dead battery, a long slow charge over 24 hours or so at less than 2 or 3 amps may bring it back. The modern chargers pulse to condition the battery, so a good one can help a lot! At low amps leave it connected. High amps take it out of the car!
Steve...This is great info and the kind of stuff I was worried about. I bought a charger from Sears with a 2 & 10 amp slow charge cycle and a 50a jump charge. I actually used the 10amp for about an hour with no ill affects using the 'maintenance free / deep cycle' setting. It is pretty unnerving to hear the 'buzz' sound when you open the door and all of the interior electronics come on (the ones that come on when you just open the door - lights, seats,odo, etc). Scared the crap out of me because it literally sounds like the car is being electrocuted. This happened on both the 2 & 10 amp settings. After hearing that I just left it connected, closed the door and trunk lid enough to make the light go out and just left it until the meter moved up into the 'Charge' range. At that point it cranked right over. I didn't drive it but put it in R and Drive a few times and moved a couple of feet back and forth in the garage, checked the EVIC to make sure all my settings were retained, used all of the electronic devices I could and I let it idle for about 20 minutes. I'm pretty certain that mine is a case of slow draining due to the conditions here and not a case of a bad battery or alternator.

I'm going to pick up some battery tenders for this and my 'new' Grand National as it's going to be sitting for long periods of time as well. Thanks again, Bernie, for the suggestion.

And thanks again, Steve.

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As was stated earlier,a Battery Tender is the best bet for a car or bike in storage. It has circuitry that senses voltage drops and kicks in to re-charge. unlike trickle chargers they completely shut off when charged. They don't cause a battery to lose any fluid, They have them multi battery use
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A jump can cause all kinds of problems, but it is easy to reduce the risks.

When jumping, make sure the good vehicle is turned off before you try to start the dead car. It's that simple. Run the jumper vehicle all you want, but don't EVER have both vehicles running at the same time or while trying to start the dead one.

With the dead battery, a long slow charge over 24 hours or so at less than 2 or 3 amps may bring it back. The modern chargers pulse to condition the battery, so a good one can help a lot! At low amps leave it connected. High amps take it out of the car!
I've jump started several cars with my "C" whilst it was running and I've had no issues,or are you saying your procedure is for starting a dead "C"?
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good for you

while you may have never experienced it, many newer cars do not like the huge surges caused by jump starting another vehicle with a dead battery.

Count yourself among the lucky. The unlucky have paid big bucks for new alternators and the like!

Just follow those simple guidelines and you may never have a problem.
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i vote for a battery tender too. Last year my srt would die on a regular basis as it may only get used once every 4-6 weeks in the colder months. this year its hooked up to a battery tender which keeps the battery topped to the fully charged level continuously. Actually, ill disconnect it, work on the car and reconnect it when im done and it will top up and shut off. kinda cool really, and as steve mentioned, no more need to jump the car and risk unnecessary damage.
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My Battery was dead this morning, can I recharge from the connections under the hood next to the engine with trickle charge or do I need to charge from inside trunk? thank you.
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