05-08-2008, 07:54 AM
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Plug-In, Hygrid, or Diesel and 300C Fans?
This started out about hybrids and plug-in electric hybrids so please stay with me on the logic.
Let us start with the Ford Focus which some suggest is not selling well.
Here are several questions:
1) Is the Focus a "small death trap" vehicle?
2) Is the Focus an "econo box"?
3) What would the Focus sales volumes be ... IF ... it got 54 mpg(US) [about 66 mpg(Imperial)] combined cycle and 65 mpg(US) highway?
VCAcarfueldata.org.uk - Search Results - Further Information
4) What torque would you need from a 3,000 pound vehicle to be satisfactory to you? Would 175 foot pounds be adequate? [I know your answer to this is "NO!" ... but please keep going through the logic.]
IF 175 foot pounds is adequate ... a 1,120 cc version of Mercedes' NEW 2143 cc turbo diesel COULD be matched with that Ford Focus and a properly matched "new" high efficiency "smart" 6 speed automatic transmission. This combination can be predicted to deliver fuel economy in a range somewhere between 90 and 120 mpg(US) combined average!
New generation of four-cylinder diesel engines from Mercedes-Benz leads the way
5) How well do you think this ~100 mpg(US) combined average Focus would sell (even if the price WAS $4~5k ABOVE current invoice)?
6) Do you think this proposed ~100 mpg(US) combined average Focus could/would OUT SELL the 44 mpg PRIUS?
7) What chance would GM's "volt" have against this 100 mpg Focus?
Don't forget this proposed machine would NOT ever need to be plugged in and 10 gallons of diesel fuel would yield about 1,000 miles of travel.
GOOD GRIEF ... CHARLIE BROWN!!! That is ... 15,000 miles on 150 gallons of fuel! That is only $900 even at $6 per gallon!!! That is $0.06 per mile ... AND ... we would NEVER have to plug it in!
It appears that a 100 mpg clean turbo diesel Focus WOULD BE the WINNER ... over both the hybrid and the plug-in!
Here is the primary thought ... IF ... 20% of the autos on the road in the US were these 100 mpg clean turbo diesels, then US OIL IMPORTS ... would probably be reduced by more than 30%.
That would "free up" about a $200 BILLION/year no longer needed to pay for IMPORTED OIL!
Put that $200 BILLION/year into the domestic economy and it becomes millions of jobs, which in turn should generate about $200 BILLION/year in NEW tax revenues ... with the opportunity to reduce income taxes by about $700 per person/year.
And then you can keep your 300C, pickup, or SUV ... and still have an opportunity to get a reduction in your income taxes because of very high mpg vehicles.
See, I told you it does have somthing to do with 300Cs and their owners.
WIERD ... isn't it?
** SAVE AMERICA ... ONE GALLON at a TIME **
****** More 44 (100?) mpg (in the US) by 2010 ******
*** PUT MONEY .. in the BANK .. NOT .. in the TANK ***
Last edited by 44mpg by 2010 : 05-08-2008 at 08:02 AM.
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