So I went to one of the local Chrysler dealership to get all the TSBs done and for it 6,000 mile service and I have a set of Dave Z.'s pads for them to put on instead of the Chrysler ones (I really hate to get my hands dirty in my line of work -hand model ). After dropping off the car I get a call from the service dept. and they tell me that the new barke pads I brought in will void my warranty on the brakes and rotors, I ask to speak with the service manager (he is out on personal leave) and get transferred to the assistant service manager. She states the same thing, we politely disagree for a couple of minutes and I lose.
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Has anyone heard of aftermarket pads voiding your factory warranty? I call bulls**t, but I have to follow the rules unless I have documentation.
Aftermarket brake pads do not "void your warranty" on your brake system. Certainly, if your brakes squealed after the dealer installed these pads for you, they would not be responsible. And it wouldn't be reasonable to expect them to be, since they used pads you supplied. However, if any part of your braking system fails later, such as an ABS wheel speed sensor, ABS controller, caliper, or even if a rotor failed due to a casting void in manufacture, they can not deny a warranty claim based on the installation of aftermarket pads. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act prevents them from doing so.
See: Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act Explained for details of this act. The bottom line is that it is illegal for a car dealer to deny a warranty claim based on the use of aftermarket products unless they can reasonably show that such use contributed to the specific failure for which they are denying coverage.
Thanks for the info Dave, I knew the dealership was full of ****. I am still waiting on the rotors to come in, I even went to a different dealership and had them order the rotors, this dealership was much nicer. The pads are ready to go as soon as the rotors get here. I plan to take a copy of the Mag-Moss Warranty Act with me, in case I get the same bull****. Thanks Again.
If you've put any miles on your SRT8 yet, you'll know why you don't like the stock pads. The Centric Posi-Quiet pads are very low dust, low noise, and easier on the rotors.
If you've put any miles on your SRT8 yet, you'll know why you don't like the stock pads. The Centric Posi-Quiet pads are very low dust, low noise, and easier on the rotors.
Thanks for the complements
unfortunately, I had to get rit of the 300wagon for my 300Csrt.... but I still have the wheels!
the link does not work, so tell me more bout these pads?? my dealership wants to do the slotted rotor TSB so i need to know ASAP...
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Just for the record, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the OEM pads other than the fact they're more suitable for track use. The problem is most of us rarely if ever track our cars. The OEM pads do not reach their optimal temperature in normal street driving. They're way too agressive.
If you plan to track your car, change back to the OEM's. You can do it yourself and not even hurt those suptle hands. I bet you got hot feet too!
Rambit
Actually the OE Pads really frigiin suck for track use. the OE Pads are for street use ONLY!. Dont fight with me on this as David Z will also agree on this the factory pads are metallic in nature and will pad deposit your rotors from heavy track use. If you want track pads get carbotech XP-10's on the front and XP-8's for the rear. the carbotech pads are more designed for track use and even produce less dust than the factory OE pads. I have tried them all and there are not many sets of pads for the front of our cars. EBC yellow, Satisfied, and now I run carbotech for the track and I use them on the street as well. The only complaint I have with the carbotech pads is slight noise when cold. but once they are warm you better have your seatbelt on if you stomp donw on them or you will buying a new windshield!
OE Pads metallic = eat the **** out of your rotors with high temp track use (Road Atlanta home track)
EBC yellow = noisy, dusty, stop well, carbon metallic, also rough on rotors
Satisfied GS6D1053-GSD6D1159 Carbon Ceramic Race grid, perform great on street and and better than average on track, quiet, lil to no dust
Carbotech XP-10 and XP-8 best pad for track use and allaorund good for street Full ceramic nosiy at times when cold but i cna live with it.
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Actually the OE Pads really frigiin suck for track use. the OE Pads are for street use ONLY!. Dont fight with me on this as David Z will also agree on this the factory pads are metallic in nature and will pad deposit your rotors from heavy track use. If you want track pads get carbotech XP-10's on the front and XP-8's for the rear. the carbotech pads are more designed for track use and even produce less dust than the factory OE pads. I have tried them all and there are not many sets of pads for the front of our cars. EBC yellow, Satisfied, and now I run carbotech for the track and I use them on the street as well. The only complaint I have with the carbotech pads is slight noise when cold. but once they are warm you better have your seatbelt on if you stomp donw on them or you will buying a new windshield!
OE Pads metallic = eat the **** out of your rotors with high temp track use (Road Atlanta home track)
EBC yellow = noisy, dusty, stop well, carbon metallic, also rough on rotors
Satisfied GS6D1053-GSD6D1159 Carbon Ceramic Race grid, perform great on street and and better than average on track, quiet, lil to no dust
Carbotech XP-10 and XP-8 best pad for track use and allaorund good for street Full ceramic nosiy at times when cold but i cna live with it.
Motul6 Blue Brake fluid and SS brakelines
I'm not disputing what you're saying at all, mainly because I don't know. What I meant was the OEM pads are MORE suitable over Posi Quietsfor track use than they are for normal day to day driving. I think Dave will agree to that as well.
You sound like a hard core road track guy who needs brakes in a big way, maybe to the point of having a BBK as well. For those who are "casual" track goers I think you'd agree the OEM's are not a bad option and that's pretty much what many have been doing here.
Rambit
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Until recently, there were no track pads at all for the SRT8 front calipers. (Every track pad known to man is available for the rear!) Based on the behavior of the stock pads when driven on the street (dusty beyond belief, noisy, aggressive on rotors), it was my belief that they would perform better at the track than any of the low dust alternatives (C-Tek, Centric Posi-Quiet, etc.). That's because true race pads need at least 350 degrees F or more to get into their working temperature range and, below that, they exhibit all the characteristics demonstrated by the stock pads. It would be hard to believe that DCX specified a pad from Jurid, the OEM manufacturer, that was this bad on the street and was also bad on the track. Apparently, my faith in DCX was misplaced and the OEM pads are unpleasant to live with on both street and track. While they seem to stand up to a couple of high speed laps at a time (e.g., SRT Track Experience), extended track use more typical of driving schools and high speed open track days (20-30 minute sessions) result in pad deposition and other issues.
While the world class race pad manufacturers (Raybestos, Hawk, Pagid, Ferodo, Performance Friction, and Mintex) have not yet stepped up to address the SRT8 front calipers, a few of the boutique race pad suppliers have. As Un0rTh0d0x points out, EBC (whose street pads I think very poorly of) is now supplying the EBC YellowStuff race pads, and a much more promising option is the Carbotech XP10 race pad. This would appear to be the current best choice for the front calipers. Feedback is just now starting to appear on these new race pads. I will continue to watch with interest and continue to hope for more race pad choices to appear shortly.
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). After dropping off the car I get a call from the service dept. and they tell me that the new barke pads I brought in will void my warranty on the brakes and rotors, I ask to speak with the service manager (he is out on personal leave) and get transferred to the assistant service manager. She states the same thing, we politely disagree for a couple of minutes and I lose. 
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