Good link....thanks. And thanks to all for your helpful responses....this is a good thread you started, Rambit, when you first got your SRT8.......So from all your responses so far, what I'm hearing is this:
1. As a temporary solution, we need to treat the rims with some type of agent/spray to keep the dust from building up and looking blackish,
2. This treatment is also to prevent corrosion on the rims,
3. We just have to keep washing them all the time,
4. As a long term solution, new pads are needed, and that requires DCX or Mopar or someone to come out with a recommended pad replacement.
So do I have this correct? Or am I still missing something?
(BTW, Rambit, you wash your rims each time?!! What, do you have a power washer at home or something? Now that's dedication!!)......
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I was reading this thread looking for a low-dust alternative to the stock SRT8 brake pads. From what I have heard, the pad shape is unique to the SRT8, so there is no alternative today. An EBC rep told me that they would have on by the end of the year.
Also, interesting to hear the issues with the EBC Green pads. I have used them for years on both my Vipers as a good low dust brake pad (definitely not for track use, though). The Greens are supposed to be of a softer compound and be less abrasive on rotors. Never had a problem with my cars, the only issue I have had is some brake squeak, which I am told stems from the original brake pad material being imbedded into the rotor before using the Green pads. I was told the only way to fix this is to have the rotors turned. I know the Greens wear extremely fast under track conditions due to their softer compound, and they give up a little bite for low-dust, but I have never heard of Viper owners experiencing this "judder" that has been mentioned.
__________________ 2006 300C SRT8 - Black (completely stock) 2003 Viper SRT10 - Red (almost stock) 2000 Viper RT/10 - Red (far from stock)
BTW, Rambit, you wash your rims each time?!! What, do you have a power washer at home or something? Now that's dedication!!)......
Yeah I drag the power washer out just for the wheels, then I use car wash soap and a mitt dedicated just for that to get the wheels by hand, even behind the spokes and inner rim. The first few times I was using a cloth but the spoke edges are sharp and I was cutting myself all the time. Linda had to come to my rescue with blood transfusions and bandages.
Rambit
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I know the Greens wear extremely fast under track conditions due to their softer compound, and they give up a little bite for low-dust, but I have never heard of Viper owners experiencing this "judder" that has been mentioned.
It has nothing to do with the compound being "soft" - rather it has to do with the pad having a low Maximum Operating Temperature (MOT) and having it vastly exceeded under track conditions. When you run a pad way past its MOT, there are various failure modes, depending on the pad. Some pads get consumed rapidly. Others crack and crumble. They may put massive deposits on the rotors, resulting in judder. Or they may do all of the above. The key is using a pad in the environment for which it was designed. EBC Greenstuff is a low performance street pad. It should not be used on an agressively driven, high horsepower car and it should never be used on the track.
I've never known any Viper owners to use the Greenstuff pad. If you've managed to escape the judder monster using them, you've been very lucky. There's no way I would ever put them on the SRT8. Even if EBC is the first aftermarket manufacturer to make pads for the SRT8, I won't carry them. There are just too many posts on zillions of message boards from people who have used them and regretted it later. The most common complaint is brake judder and it's usually the poor, innocent rotors that get blamed unfairly. The EBC Greenstuff has almost single-handedly given low dust brake pads a bad name among mechanics. I'm always having to convince them that Hawk HPS or Axxis Deluxe Plus Pads will work just fine on their customers' cars and won't "warp" their rotors. (See: http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/...otors_myth.htm)
Not disputing a thing you say, you certainly seem to know a lot of info about brakes. FYI, I first heard about EBC from the Viper Club of America forums. A majority of owners there use EBC Greens for their street pad. If you did a search on that forum you will see a lot of people using the Greens, and I have seen the Axxis pads regarded highly, also. (For track pads, there are a lot of other opinions.) The only issue I have heard is brake squeal seems to be more common on the SRT-10 than the RT/10 or GTS. I will certainly check out the other pads you mentioned and see if there is a fit for the 300C SRT8.
I track only occasionally with the VIper, but when I do I switch over to a track pad. I have left the Greens on for an ocassional autocross event and they seem to do just fine.
All I am relating is only based on my experience in the Viper world, so this may not apply at all here....
__________________ 2006 300C SRT8 - Black (completely stock) 2003 Viper SRT10 - Red (almost stock) 2000 Viper RT/10 - Red (far from stock)
I am not a fan of EBC pads. They wear out too faast and they have mediocre stopping power.
Have any of your tried the Australian Bendix pad called Ultimate Axxis'? They are a pretty grippy street pad and do not produce much dust. It is worth checking.
I tried the "contact us" link to ask if this Rejex stuff was available in Canada and it's broken. I also tried to e-mail them and it bounced back rejected. Anyone have any luck contacting them?
Rambit
__________________ 2009 calendars are ready! Check it out --->HERE
2005 300C SRT8 - #72 of 252 (excl. 11 pilots) - #10 of 35 Canadian SRT8's built 2008 Harley Davidson FLSTF Fatboy - Vance & Hines Big Shots STGD with FuelPak tune. 2008 Jeep GC SRT8 - Custom Build/Custom Delivered by SRT - 1 of 1 in Canada
I was reading this thread looking for a low-dust alternative to the stock SRT8 brake pads. From what I have heard, the pad shape is unique to the SRT8, so there is no alternative today. An EBC rep told me that they would have on by the end of the year.
Also, interesting to hear the issues with the EBC Green pads. I have used them for years on both my Vipers as a good low dust brake pad (definitely not for track use, though). The Greens are supposed to be of a softer compound and be less abrasive on rotors. Never had a problem with my cars, the only issue I have had is some brake squeak, which I am told stems from the original brake pad material being imbedded into the rotor before using the Green pads. I was told the only way to fix this is to have the rotors turned. I know the Greens wear extremely fast under track conditions due to their softer compound, and they give up a little bite for low-dust, but I have never heard of Viper owners experiencing this "judder" that has been mentioned.
I also use EBC's on my Vipers as do many other Viper owners. I do not know of anyone who has ever had a problem with EBC Greens.
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