NYC_SRT8, thanks for the info. You mentioned I would need to replace the front. Does that mean the rear is already up to the same "standard" as the SRT8? If so, this means I need to buy the whole kit (thanks for the links) for the front system and then just replace the rotors and the pads on my car's rear system? Please confirm. Happy New Year!
No, the rears are not up to srt8 standards. However, just upgrading the front braking system is more than enough IMO. Most the workload is handled by it. If you plan on tracking the car "a lot" only then will I say you need to upgrade both.
If you want a honest, unbias opinion by a brake specialist give David Zeckhausen a call (800-222-8893). He is a supporting vendor and a great asset to this and many other forums (not only lx based). Once I spoke to him on the phone for over a hour. He gave me more brake knowlege than I couldn't even absorb. The funny thing is all I called for was to buy brake pads.
I don't doubt that the aftermarket brake kits make a big improvement in braking feel. Problem is, they're OHMYGOD expensive.
I'm going to just do a pad upgrade on my car. (Rotors only make an improvement in braking performance if they are bigger than stock or of a more grippy material.) I'm betting that the difference will still be pretty substantial, but will be a much better bang for the buck than a full oversized brake kit.
I don't doubt that the aftermarket brake kits make a big improvement in braking feel. Problem is, they're OHMYGOD expensive.
I'm going to just do a pad upgrade on my car. (Rotors only make an improvement in braking performance if they are bigger than stock or of a more grippy material.) I'm betting that the difference will still be pretty substantial, but will be a much better bang for the buck than a full oversized brake kit.
Like I said better pads with slotted, drilled or both rotors would be a great upgrade over stock on the 300c. Chicago300c asked how to make the C's brakes feel like the srt8. The only way the C can do that is buy either getting srt8 brakes (including the steering knuckle so it would fit on the 300c), aftermarket brembo or stoptech.
Like I said better pads with slotted, drilled or both rotors would be a great upgrade over stock on the 300c. Chicago300c asked how to make the C's brakes feel like the srt8. The only way the C can do that is buy either getting srt8 brakes (including the steering knuckle so it would fit on the 300c), aftermarket brembo or stoptech.
Slots and holes in stock-sized rotors are there only for cooling. If the car's brakes don't already have problems with fade, they won't notice any improvement with slotted or drilled rotors.
In fact, slotted or drilled rotors likely have poorer braking performance than rotors without those treatments, for the simple fact that the slots or holes take away from the friction surface. Less swept area = less braking performance.
So assuming a driver isn't putting his brakes up to the punishment of repeated hard stops that could result in fade, and just wants a tangible improvement in initial bite and braking power, the best bang for the buck would be better pads. Beyond that, an oversized brake kits would be the next jump, and suddenly we're talking about a couple grand as oppsed to a hundred bucks or less. (Assuming just one axle--no point in upgrading the rears as they handle maybe 20% of the braking duties.)
Slots and holes in stock-sized rotors are there only for cooling. If the car's brakes don't already have problems with fade, they won't notice any improvement with slotted or drilled rotors.
In fact, slotted or drilled rotors likely have poorer braking performance than rotors without those treatments, for the simple fact that the slots or holes take away from the friction surface. Less swept area = less braking performance.
So assuming a driver isn't putting his brakes up to the punishment of repeated hard stops that could result in fade, and just wants a tangible improvement in initial bite and braking power, the best bang for the buck would be better pads. Beyond that, an oversized brake kits would be the next jump, and suddenly we're talking about a couple grand as oppsed to a hundred bucks or less. (Assuming just one axle--no point in upgrading the rears as they handle maybe 20% of the braking duties.)
While you aren't far off, there are a couple of innaccurate statements here and in other posts that need addressing.
Gas is created when pads are suddenly clamped down on the rotor. Slotted rotors can really help with "bite" by giving the gasses created by hard braking somewhere to go. They also dress the pads. Some say they help wet braking.
Drilled rotors are excellent in the rain, also giving the gasses somewhere to go. Lighter weight can help also. Loss of sheer mass and swept area are factors in a marginal system, but rarely perceptible in street driving. As everyone knows, drilled rotors are subject to stress cracking and failures, but this rarely happens on the street.
Swept area is only one of many factors. Unless your rotors look like swiss cheese you won't be noticing any loss due to that one. I do agree that pads are a HUGE factor in responsiveness.
Finally, a note that bigger is not necessarily better. Many have fitted huge aftermarket systems and had POORER braking performance. Not to mention ABS issues, etc.
I second the suggestion to talk to Dave Z first. He has a wealth of experience in these matters.
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I was just told that my front bake pads and rotors would cost $750.00 for the front of my 2006 srt8. Back would cost $565.00. Quoted by Chrysler.
They said I cannot buy the pads without the rotors in a kit. Need some input please.
I just received my Drilled and Slotted rotors and ceramic pads. Great service at R1. I haven't done the install but I hear great things about the product.
I just received my Drilled and Slotted rotors and ceramic pads. Great service at R1. I haven't done the install but I hear great things about the product.
I did the install in 1 hour on saturday and they are mint! I am very happy.
If you do not need new rotors and just need the pads I would suggest Centric Posi-Quiet pads...they ahve less dust with similar performance and they will not cost anywhere near that much money...about 300 for all 4 corners
If you do not need new rotors and just need the pads I would suggest Centric Posi-Quiet pads...they ahve less dust with similar performance and they will not cost anywhere near that much money...about 300 for all 4 corners
You can get posi-quiets on ebay for $80-100 shipped.
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