Avic - D3 - Pioneer

[CaVleX]

Does anyone know if this new unit you will have to swap out the disc for navigation? For instance if I am using the Nav, can I still play a CD? Thanx

[brandon_williams_4]

It looks to me as if the unit has only a single drive. If this is the case, and I am correct, you cannot listen to a CD and select Navigation destinations at the same time. To select a destination, the Nav disc will need to be inserted. Once the unit has learned your destination, you may remove the disc and insert a CD.

[300on24s]

^^^^ That would suck and make this unit useless.

[rlandis]

I believe you eject the music cd, insert the nav disk, program the destination address, it uploads the route and surrounding area, and then you go back to your music as you take your journey.

[Ahbizmal]

^ That sounds like a lot of hassel still... But I am looking at the pioneer website: Pioneer Electronics - Sound. Vision. Soul

It mentions the following:
Navigation
Navigation Type Built-in DVD with Memory Nav
Map Data 2 DVD-ROM (CNDV-70M)
Coverage Area US, Canada, Alaska, Hawaii
Data Size 15GB
Memory Navigation Mode Yes
Home Area Map Memory Corridor/Rectangle
3D Hybrid Sensor (Gyro & G-Force)
GPS Receiver and Antenna 8 Channel (Included)
Touch Screen Operation
Voice Instructions Playback Recorded Voice
Multi-Language Display Capability English, Spanish, French
Voice Control (Voice Recognition) Not Available
Points of Interest (POI) 12 million
Brand Icon POI's Included
POI Database Categories 271
POI Categories by Brand Included
POI Shortcut Keys Yes
Detailed City Map Not Available
Highway Lane Information 50 Cities
XM NavTraffic Ready
Emergency Mode Display
1-Year Roadside Assistance Included
D isplay Mode - Map View Yes
Display Mode - Guide View Yes
Display Mode - Route View Yes
Display Mode - Driver's View Yes
Display Mode - Rear View Yes
Vehicle Dynamics Display (VDD) Included
Vehicle Dynamics Skins 5 (Original, Carbon, Hologram, Sharp Metal,Classic)
VDD Gauge Selections 7 (Voltage, Clock, Direction, Slope, Acceleration, Side Acceleration, Angular Velocity)

DVD/CD Player
Drives Included 1 (DVD/CD)
DVD-Video Playback
DVD-R/RW (Video Format) Playback DVD/DVD-R/-RW
CD-R/RW Playback CD/CD-R/-RW
MP3 Playback with ID3 Tag DVD or CD
WMA (Windows Media Audio) Playback DVD or CD
iTunes AAC Playback DVD or CD
DivX Video Playback DVD

[Ahbizmal]

Not sure if it is two separate drivews the way that they sum it up. But looks like it will just be one drive.

[05Silver_C]

Originally Posted by brandon_williams_4

It looks to me as if the unit has only a single drive. If this is the case, and I am correct, you cannot listen to a CD and select Navigation destinations at the same time. To select a destination, the Nav disc will need to be inserted. Once the unit has learned your destination, you may remove the disc and insert a CD.

Originally Posted by 300on24s

^^^^ That would suck and make this unit useless.

Basically leaves 2 options
1- Pioneer Ipod adapter, This is what I did when I had the AVIC N2, just leave the nav disc in, who uses CDs any way
2- AVIC Z1, What I have now... 10GB of music storage, 20GB of maps and other junk

[300on24s]

This unit is utter garbage then.

[brandon_williams_4]

Originally Posted by Ahbizmal

^ That sounds like a lot of hassel still... But I am looking at the pioneer website: Pioneer Electronics - Sound. Vision. Soul

It mentions the following:
Navigation
Navigation Type Built-in DVD with Memory Nav
Map Data 2 DVD-ROM (CNDV-70M)
Coverage Area US, Canada, Alaska, Hawaii
Data Size 15GB
Memory Navigation Mode Yes
Home Area Map Memory Corridor/Rectangle
3D Hybrid Sensor (Gyro & G-Force)
GPS Receiver and Antenna 8 Channel (Included)
Touch Screen Operation
Voice Instructions Playback Recorded Voice
Multi-Language Display Capability English, Spanish, French
Voice Control (Voice Recognition) Not Available
Points of Interest (POI) 12 million
Brand Icon POI's Included
POI Database Categories 271
POI Categories by Brand Included
POI Shortcut Keys Yes
Detailed City Map Not Available
Highway Lane Information 50 Cities
XM NavTraffic Ready
Emergency Mode Display
1-Year Roadside Assistance Included
D isplay Mode - Map View Yes
Display Mode - Guide View Yes
Display Mode - Route View Yes
Display Mode - Driver's View Yes
Display Mode - Rear View Yes
Vehicle Dynamics Display (VDD) Included
Vehicle Dynamics Skins 5 (Original, Carbon, Hologram, Sharp Metal,Classic)
VDD Gauge Selections 7 (Voltage, Clock, Direction, Slope, Acceleration, Side Acceleration, Angular Velocity)

DVD/CD Player
Drives Included 1 (DVD/CD)
DVD-Video Playback
DVD-R/RW (Video Format) Playback DVD/DVD-R/-RW
CD-R/RW Playback CD/CD-R/-RW
MP3 Playback with ID3 Tag DVD or CD
WMA (Windows Media Audio) Playback DVD or CD
iTunes AAC Playback DVD or CD
DivX Video Playback DVD

If you look under "DVD/CD Player" the first thing it says is "Drives Included 1 (DVD/CD)." It's a single drive player, so to upload a destination the disc will need to be inserted... Therefore, a CD can not be loaded. It does suck, I had a Pioneer AVIC-N1 until it was replaced with an N2 after countless problems. I hated them both. Most of the time they wouldnt read a brand new Nav disc. Look at some Eclipse stuff. They offer dual drives, and Hard Drives in the real high end ones. Also, Kenwood offers a seperate Nav unit that can be added to any of the DVD headunits that is all Hard Drive. No Nav discs at all!! Listen to whatever you want while using your extremely easy to use Navigation.