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Old 03-04-2005, 03:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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[quote=StCassel]Nolmscheid and Johnny,

Thanks. Where can you get this Plexus? Auto parts store or some other type of store? Is this a liquid product that is applied to the navi screen?

A lot of motorcycle dealers carry the Plexus in the parts department. Its used on m/c windscreens.
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Plexus is used by a lot of the avation industry for all of the glass. Which is actualyl a plexi type material. It does not degrade the plastic at all.
I find that quite odd. I have been in the aviation industry (read my profile) quite a bit longer than a great number of forum members have been alive. I have never heard of Plexus.

Again, the Nav screen material is a lot different than window perspex. I will agree that it is more like a laptop screen than any other similar material. Don't let this claim about B52's coax you into anything. Even if it is true (and I wonder about that) ...all it means is this company was the lowest bidder on a military supply contract.

I don't know how you fellows feel about it, but I don't want to put anything supplied by the lowest bidder on something as delicate as my nav screen.

It might be good stuff...I don't know. Just be very careful until YOU know.



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Old 03-04-2005, 07:46 PM   #23 (permalink)
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From someone that works for a company that sells a lot to the government, 9 out of 10 times they do NOT buy the cheapest product.

My experience with Plexus has been great. I was part of several avaiation newsgroups and they talked of plexus quite often in there.

quick search on plexus cleaner in google groups...first page has links to aviation forums.

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...ner&safe=of f

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Old 03-04-2005, 08:08 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Plexus is good stuff. I use it in the boating industry for cleaning clear plastic/glass on big motor yachts and have never had a problem with it. The one I use comes in a aerosol can. You can get it at either Boat US or West Marine if you live near the water. I live next to an Air Force base here in Florida and have heard that they do use it there also.
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Old 03-04-2005, 09:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Folks, the cure here may be worse than the disease. Before you jump at using a solvent based cleaning solution to remove scratches, just remember, you run the risk of increasing the glare (unwanted reflections) on your screen. See my earlier post.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:44 PM   #26 (permalink)
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From someone that works for a company that sells a lot to the government, 9 out of 10 times they do NOT buy the cheapest product.

My experience with Plexus has been great. I was part of several avaiation newsgroups and they talked of plexus quite often in there....

Not sure which government it is that you've been selling to, but the one for which I have worked for over twenty-five years does indeed, by law, publish bids and then awards supply orders to those companies who contract to meet the spec at the lowest total dollar amount. Under the table corruption notwithstanding, of course. The few times it has not, the media gets wind of it and an entire section lose their jobs over the matter. Surely we all remember the bruhaha over $1200 desks and toilet seats?

As you have proven to yourself the wonders and benefits of this magical concoction, then I strongly urge you to buy .....and use it.....by the gallon. Slather it on to your hearts content without a care.

As for everyone else, take GaryCampbells' advice if you won't take mine. Quite often when this sort of bandwagon pulls out, everyone jumps on it not realising that, more often than not, the cure can kill faster than the disease.


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Well.... I do not want to take away the anti-glare properties of my navi
screen... so perhaps I will not get Plexus after all. Might create a bigger problem for myself. The minor scratches are only visible under specific low angle lighting conditions. So I do not see them that often. Has anybody ever used Plexus on their 300C navigation screen?
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I have never used it on my NAV screen and will probably not. I never touch the screen. It doesn't get prints on it. I have used it a couple times on my PDA. I am speaking from many posts I have read on Aviation forums. I could care less if you do or do not use the product. I have not stake in it. Just saying that aviation people don't use it because its the cheapest product they can find.

During September we have Government organizations calling asking what they can get for 2-3K because they need to get rid of money. If they don't spend it, it could get cut for the next year. Typically we do not charge anything before we ship. But with the government we do what is called a proforma because they need it charged NOW because they need to get rid of the money before a certain date. You can look at our sales figures for the last 25 years and September is ALWAYS our best month hands down and it is due to the Government just trying to use up their budgets. They willingly share this information with us. (Army bases, Pentagon, Colleges, etc.) This is not just your random government agency....this is also your big agencies such as the Pent. and white house and the US Postal Service themselves. Government is our #1 customer every year...we love them...until I think back and realize that its money that is buying our products! :-) Ohh well.

I can promise you that not everything they purchase is bid out. We do have bids that come in often, but a higher percentage is just regular orders. In the last two years the online ordering of government has grown immensely.

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I shall reiterate....

As you have proven to yourself the wonders and benefits of this magical concoction, then I strongly urge you to buy .....and use it.....by the gallon. Slather it on by the bucket-full to your hearts content without a care in the world.

For others, be sure of what you're doing before you pay an $1800 penalty for believing some vague and random claims about B52's and governments throwing money about because they're just SO warm and fuzzy and nice fellows.

The bottome line is: your Nav screen is NOT perspex....it is NOT glass.....it is NOT ANY FORM of plexiglass at all. So, why should you be in a hurry to use a formulation designed specifically for a material other than that in your screen? Ammonia and water mixed with a capful of bleach will also do WONDERs for cleaning glass windows around your house (if you wear thick enough latex gloves).....but you would be most incredulously stupid to use that on your nav screen too.

Be smart.....pay attention to your manual. Don't want to listen to me? Don't want to listen to GaryCampbell? That's quite all right. Then go ask your dealers' service rep. "Sir....if I clean my Nav screen with something made for a completely different sort of material than what it is actually made of.....and then I ruin it or otherwise damage it.....will you give me a brand new one on warranty just because you're such a nice fellow and I am too???"

After his laughing ends (assuming it ever does)...listen to what he says about the matter.



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Old 03-07-2005, 07:03 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Simon,

You stated all of that in your last past. Only reason for my post was to say that I have never used it on my screen and will not...but my main reason was your false claims about how the governement sepends the money. That of course you never replied to.

Nobody said to be in a hury to use it as a CLEANER. Some asked for a way that might help his scratch marks. He did not ask how to clean it. All we were doing was simply offering a solution that COULD POSSIBLY help remove the SCRATCHES. Look at the title of the post.
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