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Yes - 100% 5x115. The bolt pattern has nothing to do with RWD vs. AWD. No matter wich Chrysler 300 (new series, not m) the correct bolt pattern (actually called the PCD - Pitch Circle Diameter) is 5x115.
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I have custom made Bonspeeds w/the 115mm bolt pattern.

Vibrated like crazy until I had it road-forced balanced. It still vibrates some w/the tires cold, but not as bad.

.7mm spread across the bolt pattern diameter amounts to squat!

Why are people confusing this matter w/hub bores and hub-centric rings? Hub bore and bolt diameter are two different things!

I'd have no problem running 114.3mm.

Hell, I have 5x120mm on my S2 Jag XJ12 where it should have 5x120.65 (4 3/4"). No probs!

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ive got the 114.3. with spinners. and ive topped my car out a few times and no vibrations. believe what you want.

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Factory SRT wheel measurements

The Factory SRT wheels are 20x9.00" 5x115MM +25.5mm offset 6.00" backspace, 71.50mm hub bore, 14mmx1.50 thread studs.

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Does the 5x114.3 bolt pattern work on the 300c? I see several websites where you plug in the Chrysler 300C into their fitments lookup, and all the 114.3's show up as fitting the 300c. I have also seen a lot of rim specialty sites post pics of the 300c with their rims, but they only sell 114.3's.
Then there are other websites, where the 114.3 does not show up as a correct fit, such as bigwheels.net. I call Tireworks and other wheel shops, and they say 115's only fit.
It is my understanding the 114.3 is not the right fit and not to buy this size.
Are the folks buying the 114.3 using hub centric rings? Or could they be living with wheel shimmy at certain speeds?

115 mm, 114.3 mm and 4.5" is the same! That's a trick that wheel companies use to push their product. The difference is less that 1 mm, which is nothing!
I've done A LOT of researchon thi issue. You can't even imagine how many places I called. I also have a 2002 DTS. I've used 114.3 and 115 and 4.5" on it. Originaly it is 115 mm. Now I end up having 20" Devinos on t with 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern. So all three are THE SAME! Good luck!

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115 mm, 114.3 mm and 4.5" is the same! That's a trick that wheel companies use to push their product. The difference is less that 1 mm, which is nothing!
I've done A LOT of researchon thi issue. You can't even imagine how many places I called. I also have a 2002 DTS. I've used 114.3 and 115 and 4.5" on it. Originaly it is 115 mm. Now I end up having 20" Devinos on t with 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern. So all three are THE SAME! Good luck!

114.3mm = 4.5" this is a hard fact. there is a .7 mm difference between the 114.3 and 115 this is also a hard fact. The 114.3 will fit on the 115 bolt pattern because the difference between the 2 is practically unmeasurable.

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It seems there's a lot of wheel experts saying installing a 5x4.50" on a 5x115mm vehicle is no problem. The truth is that the wheel can not be centered when the wheels are bolted down. When you tighten one lug, it pulls the wheel off center. Vualla, vibration problems, bent studs, partial contact on the lug seats, possible lugs coming loose. Hub centric rings and conical shank lugs would help but are a bandage to a problem that should never have been. I would not recommend it to anyone. Trust me. Why don't the wheel manufactures split the difference between the two and call it good at 114.65mm for both? Liability. Radshop
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It seems there's a lot of wheel experts saying installing a 5x4.50" on a 5x115mm vehicle is no problem. The truth is that the wheel can not be centered when the wheels are bolted down. When you tighten one lug, it pulls the wheel off center. Vualla, vibration problems, bent studs, partial contact on the lug seats, possible lugs coming loose. Hub centric rings and conical shank lugs would help but are a bandage to a problem that should never have been. I would not recommend it to anyone. Trust me. Why don't the wheel manufactures split the difference between the two and call it good at 114.65mm for both? Liability. Radshop
Good post, Radshop! As one who has had wheels come off at speed, I have learned my lessons the hard way. The wheels have to fit according to spec.

It's amazing how so many people can believe what they want to believe - ignore the facts - just to justify the wheels they want to buy.

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It seems there's a lot of wheel experts saying installing a 5x4.50" on a 5x115mm vehicle is no problem. The truth is that the wheel can not be centered when the wheels are bolted down. When you tighten one lug, it pulls the wheel off center. Vualla, vibration problems, bent studs, partial contact on the lug seats, possible lugs coming loose. Hub centric rings and conical shank lugs would help but are a bandage to a problem that should never have been. I would not recommend it to anyone. Trust me. Why don't the wheel manufactures split the difference between the two and call it good at 114.65mm for both? Liability. Radshop
Bolt patterns do no center rims - not even with a 5x115 pattern. First off, there are no hub centric 'off the shelf' aftermarket rims for these cars. Only a OEM factory or custom built to order forged rims comes hub centric. Centering rings are required for 5x115 because no one makes an aftermarket 'off the shelf' rim with a 71.5 hub. So a centering ring is not a bandaid it is required for all aftermarket "off the shelf" rims.





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Ok, so I read through this whole thread (all 7 pages ) and have come to the conclusion that the difference between 115 and 114.3 is in fact a definite problem. Yes, it may only be .7 of a difference, but as this difference is on a rotating mass, any vibration or centering problem etc. will get progressive in magnitude. Of course, I could be wrong - but reguardless of the reasons DCX says 115.

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