Melting point Wax

[turbomangt]

Another advantage that synthetics have over wax is the fact that Carnuaba breaks down and melts away at around 130 degrees, for synthetics its 365 degrees. You might not think that your hood will ever see 130*, but depending on where you live, if the air temp is 90* in the hot sun on your hood its much greater.

[john]

I live in Sweden and i because of the cold weather and salt here I have protected my 300c with a 2- component product called ditec.The initial treatment is expensive, 350 dollars, but you don´t have to polish the car anymore. Take a look at the web-side:
http://www.ditec.dk/lakkons_engelse.htm

John (Sweden)

[dynodon]

A quality carnauba wax will NOT "melt" away at high temps. I have used Collinite carnauba for years in all sorts of weather and it can last an entire summer.

Compared to one synthetic it lasted just as long.

Reallly, like the microscopic layer of was is going to turn to liquid and run off?

Please no wild wax tales, 300C owners should be smart enough to know better.

I do agree with one point, that sheet metal can get quite hot in the sun, especially the darker colors, but the wax won't melt away.

ALL waxes eventually wear off, that is what they are supposed to do. If they were permanent, they would be....Paint! and then it would require a temporary protection like carnauba wax.

Don

[turbomangt]

I assure you this is no old wives tale. The melting point of wax is 130* which is documated both by Ardex-Car Brite and Auto Magic. You can also get non bias analysis of how Carnuaba compares to synthetic from www.gurureports.org I'm posting here to help, not to cause friction. Since I write articles for several trade magazines on detailing, I think I know just a tad more than most when it comes to my profession.

[dynodon]

I run my own detailing products business and have several national champion awards to my resume. I know a few things about waxes and how they behave.

That car test report site you mention is out to sell reports, but as I understand it Collinite is in the very top of the waxes they test, and at that level, there really isn't any difference.

Again, a quality carnauba isn't going to melt and run off or evaporate at high temps. ALL applied waxes will wear off with abrasion from driving and washing/dusting etc that all cars get, even some in museums.

I am not here to promote my business so I won't list it, but I stand by my statements. Not trying to put any other product down, just trying to make sure dis-information isn't put out.

Don

[developerx]

Originally Posted by turbomangt

I assure you this is no old wives tale.

I've seen wax run in the summer Florida sun. It is probably formula/brand/number of coats sensitive, but it does make sense. The higher the heat, the softer the wax.

[turbomangt]

I will rest my case on the subject as post what was printed in Autopia, by someone else.

Melting point [: is the temperature at which the solid and liquid phases of a substance are in equilibrium at a specified pressure (normally taken to be atmospheric unless stated otherwise]
The respective melting points are; Polymer 350oF, Mineral oils 200oF, Carnauba wax 180oF, and Bee’s wax 130oF

It should be noted that there is a range of temperatures at which melting begins and that the 'melting point' is the end point of that range
JonM