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Old 04-07-2005, 12:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You've probably heard the story's of how water is a cesspool of millions of microorganisms.

Have you ever wondered if Micro fibers are really scratching the sh*t out of your paint in a microscopic sort of way? Just imagine 90,000-200,000 micro scratches per square inch on your paint, but you can only see them with an electron microscope.
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It's better than macroscopic scratches
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Old 04-07-2005, 07:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The one thing I hated the most about washing my car was drying it. It always seemed that you could'nt dry it fast enough without leaving water spots, that is until Mr. Clean came out with there car wash/ auto drying system. You have to see it to believe it. No touch drying because it filters the water in the final rinse setting where all the water spots come from. I was apprehensive at first but not now.
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Micro fiber from discount stores

After reading mutiple threads about micro fiber towels, I purchased some from WalMart for about 1/5 the cost of sites that lambast the cheap versions. While I can't compare them to the premium priced versions I have never tried, I can say: the inexpensive ones work soooo good I have purchased more....I now use them for the washing cycle (much better than old tee shirts (tried that) or sponges (tried that)) in addition to drying...I even use them around the house.

I keep some in the trunk. I have found one particular touchless washer near me ($6.00 and it is better than more expensive ones I have tried) that I use when the car is not too dirty...after the cycle, 5-10 minutes with one small towel makes my car look great.

Like somebody mentioned in a previous thread, wash them separately and only use a small amount of detergent. I give them an extra cycle to purge all the detergent.

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The major difference in quality MF compared to cheap ones is in the life of the towel. Some will start falling apart after a few dozen washes. The quality ones have been tested for over 600 washes with no effect what so ever on the fabric. Its the old cliche' you get what you pay for. Gary
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It's more then just the wear. The Walmart and Costco MF's scratch up multi coated optics if your not carefull, and first surface coated mirrors badly no matter how lightly you use them. They might be fine on a car's paint but just one wipe and the mirror coating has hundreds of little scratches. The Sonüs Der Wunder Buffing and Polishing towels never leave a scratch on anything I've used them on.
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Exclamation The Dirty, Ugly Truth About Microfibre.

My business has over 1.6 million hours of fine detail cleaning experience, in residential cleaning. Microfiber cloths are the most significant advance in fine detail cleaning in the past 25 years.

First, some information:

What is the Micro-fiber?
Micro-fiber is 1/100 the thickness of a human hair and thanks to its special
wedge shaped fiber absorbs most quickly the water.
Micro-fiber maintains the excellent absorptive and draining power and
absorbs moisture faster than normal cotton,
like a sponge and removes dust and soil quickly.
- The fineness of micro split-fiber is 1/100(0.1~0.3denier) that of human hair.
- No detergent. (The extremely fine micro-fiber of NBB will percolate through
the oil and wash off even without any detergent.)




- Anti-vermin. (Space is highly dense enough to keep off vermin, length of 100/300micron.)
- Short cleaning time and low cost.
- Wedge-shaped cross section threads that trap and catch all kinds of dust.
- No reverse sticking of dust.
(No particles come out between the cloth and the surface!).
- No damage or scratches to any surfaces.
- Abundance of bubbles in the micro spaces when bathing.
- Extremely soft touch.
- Anti-bacteria.



The unique design creates 2 dynamics. When the strand contacts fluids, including oil, it pulls them up into the strand via capillary action. The proximity of 2 dissimilar synthetics also creates a static charge which picks up dry objects and pulls them up into the cloth.

MF has been used in cleaning optics and fine, delicate items for some time. The product requires very sofisicated manufacturing. It has only been in the last 3 years that prices have come down to make them practical for everyday use.

MF can be used on cars to do the initial cleaning of soil from the surface. I rinse as much dirt off with water. Then I take a pail of clean water with a little soap in the water and a fresh clean MF towel. I wet the towel in the soapy water and work the cloth lightly over the surface. I then, go over with a clean, dry MF towel to remove the water. If I am going to wax, then I clay the surfgace at this point.

I clean all my glass in and out with a damp, clean MF towel.

For final buffing of a newly waxed (paint sealant) surface, I have always used soft 100% cotton bath towels.

Now I am using a MF towel with similar properties. The enemy of any paint job is to move hard particles such as silica sand over the surfgace with pressure. Chamois, sponges and typical cotton cloths can easily trap these particles. MF is prefered because particles are less likely to stay on the surface tip of the strands. They also hold an amazing amount of water, and will remove surface oil.

You must purchase high quality cloths. They have different properties for different uses. It' bes to buy from someone knowledgeable such as Gary (Turbomagnet).

I hope this information is helpful.
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