dual action orbital or high speed buffer?

[HEMMISSEY]

I am about to detail my DLR C this coming weekend. Now the question is, which buffer should i get? A dual action orbital, or high speed buffer? There are many other's that i seen but don't know what to choose?? Also what brand? I have these dam swirl marks all over the car and it's getting annoying

[Lik2race]

Originally Posted by 300cWannaB

I am about to detail my DLR C this coming weekend. Now the question is, which buffer should i get? A dual action orbital, or high speed buffer? There are many other's that i seen but don't know what to choose?? Also what brand? I have these dam swirl marks all over the car and it's getting annoying

ORBITAL BUFFER...
unless you are really skilled with the High Speed buffer.
JMO

[HEMMISSEY]

Hey Stan, can you tell me what's the difference between the two? Im new to this detailing gig.. :o

[Lik2race]

Originally Posted by 300cWannaB

Hey Stan, can you tell me what's the difference between the two? Im new to this detailing gig.. :o

Probably many others a lot more QUALIFIED than I to explain the difference.
Mainly,the Orbital buffer spins at a much Lower speed,
won't burn through paint.
A High Speed buffer can go through the clear coat and
color coat real fast,unless you are skilled.

[fatchance]

You want a orbital buffer not a rotary high speed buffer. The orbital buffer randomly buffs the surface. Similar to waxing by hand but much faster. It's almost imposible to screw up the finish. The high speed rotary buffer spins in one direction and if not used properly will go right through your paint. You can't go wrong with an orbital buffer.

[Model 57]

That about sums it up. The high speed buffers are great because of how fast they work; IN SKILLED HANDS. But as already said they can cut right through the clearcoat, and the color in a heartbeat.

[turbomangt]

Boy its a good thing I brought my lap top with me. I detail cars as a profession and I only use a high speed buffer on SERIOUS paint imperfections. (Swirl marks/ scratches/ etc) Here is the technical definition. High speed/ operates on a single rotation at variable speed.This type of rotation will produce heat which if used improperly will cause serious damage. The heat is needed to break down cleaners and compounds in order for them to do their job. I would NEVER use a high speed on a new car.
Dual Action Random Orbital/ the movement of this machine is two functional. The heads not only spin on access (as on the HP) but they also move in a orbital movement. This type of movement does NOT produce any heat, so it makes it much safer to use. The downside is it has its limitations. It is perfect for the unskilled detailer, but restricts any type of serious paint correction. So if you want to use it for applying cleaners/ waxes// or sealants, it is fine. If you have scratches or other blemishe, you will be limited to what you can accomplish. Hope that helps, for more information visit www.perfectautofinish.com

[HEMMISSEY]

Thanks Turbomangt for the advice.. When i bought my car, it already had "alot" of swirl marks all over? don't know why? hum.. What did you use on Scarbs DLR C? It looks so nice, that's what im trying to get at! Here was the previous link Black Cherri gets her shine on.

[CottyGee]

WannaB -

If *MY* new car came with swirls, I would DEMAND that the dealer FIX THE PROBLEM - forth with. On the other hand, if *I* swirled the car through misapplication of detailing supplies, I would take it to a reputable detailing shop to have the problem properly corrected with minimal damage to the finish. If a car wash swirled my car, I'd tell them they have ONE CHANCE to fix the problem, and if they could not COMPLETELY REMOVE all swirls, halos, spiderwebs or other imperfections, I would refuse to pay them, and require that they pay to have the problem corrected.

There is no reason whatever for a brand new vehicle to have anything other than swirl-free paint.

FWIW, I'd ***NEVER*** trust myself with a rotary!!! And I'd never let anyone other than a SEASONED PROFESSIONAL DETAILER with YEARS OF EXPERIENCE in a reputable, established brick-n-mortor automotive detail speciality business use a rotary on my new car...

[RedGoober4Life]

Originally Posted by CottyGee

WannaB -

If *MY* new car came with swirls, I would DEMAND that the dealer FIX THE PROBLEM - forth with. On the other hand, if *I* swirled the car through misapplication of detailing supplies, I would take it to a reputable detailing shop to have the problem properly corrected with minimal damage to the finish. If a car wash swirled my car, I'd tell them they have ONE CHANCE to fix the problem, and if they could not COMPLETELY REMOVE all swirls, halos, spiderwebs or other imperfections, I would refuse to pay them, and require that they pay to have the problem corrected.

There is no reason whatever for a brand new vehicle to have anything other than swirl-free paint.

FWIW, I'd ***NEVER*** trust myself with a rotary!!! And I'd never let anyone other than a SEASONED PROFESSIONAL DETAILER with YEARS OF EXPERIENCE in a reputable, established brick-n-mortor automotive detail speciality business use a rotary on my new car...

I hate to inform you that your new car comes with swirls because Johnny that does the detailing for ABC Dealership doesn't know any better. Asking for them to be fixed is going to cause more problems.

But I would go with a random orbital (dual action). The Porter Cable 7424 being the one of choice. Lake country pads from top of the line, and you're all set. It is nearly impossible to ruin the paint with one (unless you use some weird polish, but that's another story...).

And that last statement is kind of right kind of wrong. Out of the detailers I know, the 3 of the 5 best, I would say, are mobile.