Running In The Beast

[mathijskok]

Originally Posted by Murphy The Cat

Hi Charlie D

like I said earlier, its obviously worked really well for you for over of over 40 years. Another thing that would make things a touch harder in the UK is the size of our country and the congestion on the roads (& the bloody speed cameras which blight our landscape). Travelling on your interstates I was stunned as to how quiet they were compared to our motorways. (Indiana, TN, KY, VA, PN, IL, Maryland etc) - in the Uk we just don't seem to get the chance to drive it hard for an extended period.

In the Land of the Free do other people run their cars in, or is it something that has largely disappeared ?

MTC

Running in a car... there is a topic that can stretch.

No matter what everybody writes, if running in should be done so carefully, why don't the car makers tell you to do so? As far as I know the 300 diesel only had a single line in the manual telling you to go easy the first 1000 km.
Mercedes knows that engine a lot better then I do and they tell me that it really doesn't matter a lot anymore.

If it still matters, why is Mercedes not telling us the thruth? What would they gain by telling us it does not matter anymore? It would only give them a bad rep, cause a lot of increased support under guarantee etc? Personally I looked at the engine temp, it will rise a bit during the first km, then will start to drop, when it stays level the engine is 'ready'. At least that is what we do with aircraft engines. You can't go easy on them, they got to go at least 95% on the first take-off.

[Murphy The Cat]

Originally Posted by mathijskok

Running in a car... there is a topic that can stretch.

No matter what everybody writes, if running in should be done so carefully, why don't the car makers tell you to do so? As far as I know the 300 diesel only had a single line in the manual telling you to go easy the first 1000 km.
Mercedes knows that engine a lot better then I do and they tell me that it really doesn't matter a lot anymore.

If it still matters, why is Mercedes not telling us the thruth? What would they gain by telling us it does not matter anymore? It would only give them a bad rep, cause a lot of increased support under guarantee etc? Personally I looked at the engine temp, it will rise a bit during the first km, then will start to drop, when it stays level the engine is 'ready'. At least that is what we do with aircraft engines. You can't go easy on them, they got to go at least 95% on the first take-off.

Hi Mathijs

you've hit the nail on the head.

Uncle Mercedes knows a thing or two about building engines and he thinks that its only worth a couple of lines in the manual.

Charlie D has a fairly hard core technique for the early treating of cars that has worked well for him for years.

Myself, Geordie & Just are going to take it easy for quite a while, presumably we are going to do this "just in case".

I'm looking at your post and as far as I can tell, you're taking it easy for the first km and then driving in a style that suits you.

Hopefully I am going to keep Arnie for about 4 years. This is how my mind is working.
If I had not gone down the running in route.
3 and a half years & 65000 miles down the road, my car goes bang.
He's out of warranty and I'm facing a big repair bill and I start thinking to myself - I wish I had run him in properly, perhaps this would not have happened.

Its probably paranoia on my part, but in this case I'm just thinking safe rather than sorry.

It would be interesting to see how all of our cars differ in a few years time.

MTC

p.s from my EVIC engine temp reading, Arnie takes 12 kms before his temp reaches a steady figure of about 190 deg f.

[Just]

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p.s from my EVIC engine temp reading, Arnie takes 12 kms before his temp reaches a steady figure of about 190 deg f.[/quote]

MTC

I get so confused with different forms of measurement, kms & degrees farenheit in the same sentence?

If only the UK had decided to go with Europe, or stick with miles, gallons & farenheit (even though our UK gallons are different from those in the states).

The problem is I have no idea what the boiling / freezing point of water is in farenheit. We are so perverse when it comes to temperature measurement in the UK. If its really hot we say "cor, its in the 90s today" if its cold we change to celcius "cor, its minus 10 today"

Just

[Murphy The Cat]

Originally Posted by Just

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p.s from my EVIC engine temp reading, Arnie takes 12 kms before his temp reaches a steady figure of about 190 deg f.

MTC

I get so confused with different forms of measurement, kms & degrees farenheit in the same sentence?

If only the UK had decided to go with Europe, or stick with miles, gallons & farenheit (even though our UK gallons are different from those in the states).

The problem is I have no idea what the boiling / freezing point of water is in farenheit. We are so perverse when it comes to temperature measurement in the UK. If its really hot we say "cor, its in the 90s today" if its cold we change to celcius "cor, its minus 10 today"

Just[/quote]


Hi Just

thats me trying to make things easier to read for Mathijs who I think lives in Switzerland (Mathjis, please don't shout at me if i'm wrong !)

My car takes 8 miles before the temp steadies off at 88deg c.

MTC

p.s. water boils at 212 deg f !!!

[Just]

I shouldnt look so deeply into these things, but I wonder if they've sorted the issue I found in the following forum to let us have a 12,500 mile service interval in the 300c CRD??

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/foru...id=52#M1481122

[mathijskok]

Originally Posted by Murphy The Cat

MTC

I get so confused with different forms of measurement, kms & degrees farenheit in the same sentence?

If only the UK had decided to go with Europe, or stick with miles, gallons & farenheit (even though our UK gallons are different from those in the states).

The problem is I have no idea what the boiling / freezing point of water is in farenheit. We are so perverse when it comes to temperature measurement in the UK. If its really hot we say "cor, its in the 90s today" if its cold we change to celcius "cor, its minus 10 today"

Just

Hi Just

thats me trying to make things easier to read for Mathijs who I think lives in Switzerland (Mathjis, please don't shout at me if i'm wrong !)

My car takes 8 miles before the temp steadies off at 88deg c.

MTC

p.s. water boils at 212 deg f !!![/quote]


France actually, but I am Dutch and we also have a small thing in Amsterdam when we like to get bored.

[mathijskok]

Hi Just

thats me trying to make things easier to read for Mathijs who I think lives in Switzerland (Mathjis, please don't shout at me if i'm wrong !)

My car takes 8 miles before the temp steadies off at 88deg c.

MTC

p.s. water boils at 212 deg f !!!

France actually, but I am Dutch and we also have a small thing in Amsterdam when we get bored. That's a 1100 Km drive. And 1100 Km would be about 680 miles of the US Statue kind (or 1.162700917e-10 light year)