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Old 07-17-2013, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Front End Noise/Play & Steering Wheel Wobble

I apologize in advance, this might be a long read, but I'm getting agitated and I want to provide as much detail as possible.

Let's start with Steering Wheel Wobble. I have a very annoying steering wheel wobble, that only happens above 90km/h. 55mph for you yanks.

I originally thought it was a wheel balance issue, but I've had the wheels rebalanced so many times that it would make your head spin. I've tried 3-4 different shops, I've tried replacing the tires, I've tried different wheels. The problem persists.

Recently, I took the car to the best wheel shop in town, who used a brand new state-of-the-art Hunter Road Force Balancer. They moved the tires on the rims and countered any high/low spots... They got all 4 wheels down to less than 10lbs road force, and all 4 wheels balanced perfectly, yet the problem persists.

The tire shop suggested I take the car for an alignment, so I had my trusted mechanic at the nearest dodge dealer do a wheel alignment. My car drives straight as an arrow, but still the vibration persists.


Lately, I've noticed a major "clunk" going over potholes, speedbumps, and especially over rough wash-board type country back roads. Like something is seriously loose in the front end.

I replaced the front anti roll bar frame bushings with Moog K200170 replacements. As I heard that was a common cause of front end noise. But it made no difference.


Now I'm wondering if I have a more severe front suspension problem, causing the wheel vibration. Any suggestions? I guess I'm going away on vacation soon, and I could just drop the car off at the dealer - and tell them to fix it... But I'd much prefer to do the work myself, and save some cash and anal leakage.
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Are your wheels aftermarket units? If so, are they hub-centric wheels or lug-centric wheels?

All the balancing in the world will not help if they are lug-centric wheels which DO NOT WORK WELL on these cars.

Adding a set of hub centric spacers to the car may help. Or, swap out your wheels for a hub centric set.
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Yes they are lug-centric. I've tried both with-and-without hubcentric rings, and it makes no difference. Also, the vibration occurs with stock wheels as well.

Furthermore, the vibration is not constant... Some days it's smooth as butter, other days it's vibrating like crazy.

ALSO... Sometimes it will drive smooth, until I hit a pothole, and hear the big clunk, and then it will start vibrating after that... Then go away... Then come back.

It's really weird.
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Two actions I'd take is:

1. Replace the lug centric wheels. The bump causes them to shift and now you are out of spec.

2. Closely inspect the suspension bushings, steering end links, swaybar links and tension struts. It sounds as if something is worn or loose.
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Thanks. Will do.
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UPDATE:

After working in the shop tonight, and checking everything, changing wheels/tires, torque specs, etc... I went for a test drive...

The wobble is still there. The clunking is still there... And there's something I forgot to mention before...

I have a CRAZY shimmey in the steering wheel when braking from any faster than 55mph...


I know what you're thinking... Warped Rotors...

Except that I just recently (in the last month) installed brand new Powerstop slotted/cross-drilled rotors and high performance ceramic pads.

Because I too thought it was bad brakes.




After extensive internet research, looking into other people with the same problems...

Wobbling steering wheel faster than 55mph - NOT RELATED TO TIRE/WHEEL BALANCE or hubcentric issues.

Wobbling steering wheel when braking - NOT RELATED TO BAD ROTORS/BRAKES.

And major front end clunking...



There is a common theme amongst many of these threads.


People told me to check my Front Lower Control Arm Tension Struts/Bushings.


See attached picture.


I think I've found the culprit of all my issues!


I'll be picking up new parts, and I'll report back once again.
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Sounds like you found it. I can confirm that I had the same thing on my '05. This resolved both the clunk and the wobble.

I don't know if you've had an issue with them or not, but the other thing you should have checked is the tie rods. That was the second area of concern for me.

But for sure, once you've ruled out balancing, wheels, etc, look at the tension strut as the bushings will eventually tear. Chrysler replaces the whole unit, rather than just the bushing.

If I'm not mistaking the part was reworked, so you maybe able to get the newer part.
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See this post for details on the revised parts:

Tension Struts... Let's chat, I found something interesting..
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