It is supposed to be heavily influenced by the nassau. They need to take the nassau, which looks way better in person, ditch the hatch and add a trunk, and then chop the top a little to make it more like the current 300 and they will have a winner in my eyes.
Nah, IMHO they should kill the 300 altogether and replace it with the Nassau at the size of a Sebring, offer a manual, and a turbo 6, and everyone except us will love it
IMHO don't spend a DIME on the exterior, just make the fanciest F-ing interior they can afford to, and a decent engine that isn't sluggish, yet still reliable.
I think the Nassau would flop faster than pancakes, though. It has every feature that has ever flopped at Chrysler, including boring design, that ugly ass grille that makes it onto every design failure (sebring, crossfire, et all), and. .yeah. *snore*
Well hopefully they keep the nassau as a concept after see the dismal sebring sales. I think we might see the next 300 at next years new york show in concept form, or at least thats what chrysler past history would dictate
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What I would love to see [Or hear about] is Cerberus ASKING Chrysler 300/300C/300C SRT8 owners what THEY would like. I - for one - want the 300's to remain basically as they are. A big, boxy, in-your-face, sedan. Make the CRD diesel an option and spend a ton of money on upgrading the interior. [Just like 'OoTLink' said] My fear is that Chrysler will betray the very thing that makes the 300 so special and attempt to appeal to a broader spectrum of the market by 'European-izing' the next 300's. The next 300 should LOOK like a 300.
The only problem is you have to create a new appeal for the car while also keeping your current client base.
This is what needs to be done, keep the external measurements the same add the two mode hybrid hemi on the 300c (the one on the aspen durango prototype) then also give it vvt and mds while also giving it the new 5.7 with 370 hp, so your miles per gallon would be around 24 mpg city because of the hybrid system. Then do the interior over more colors more options and keep the external big box look but refine it similar of how (GM took the old cts and refined the same look but made the new cts.) give it all led lighting which cost less. Then to keep manufacturing cost down, do like acura come with everything but two options all (C's should have a roof, wheels, airbags etc, the only option should be nav or no nav that way you save price. Then add 1500 to the price tag and there you go.
You have to add 1500 to the price tag to make up for the new two mode hemi hybrid with the new 5.7 with vvt and mds. Add 1500 to every 300c, Charger RT, Magnum RT, Grand Cherokee limited, Aspen Limited and Durango Limited. That way it will justify the use in all vehicles and keep manufacturing cost down. I'm sure the system is expensive but spread out over the entire line should bring cost down significantly. The engine bays in all the vehicles are big enough if they keep the cars measurements the same. In doing this you separate the C,RT,and Dur and Aspen limited from the SE, SXT, touring and base models greatly while also improving the company profits and gaining a great deal of demand for a 370 hp 24mpg (city) vehicle for 38000 and 39500 with navigation. Perfect. All options should be included, less manufacturing cost, Less parts cost for Chrysler, Less trouble and heart ache for the consumer. Now you might pay alittle more for the vehicle then you wanted to but With the fuel savings and options included I believe the customer and company can find a happy medium.
THIS IS MY LETTER TO CHRYSLER ON THE NEXT 300 MODEL, WHAT EVER THE LETTER BECOMES , SHOULD BE 300D
CHRYSLER I KNOW YOUR READING THIS PAY ATTENTION.
VVT= variable valve timing
MDS= Multi displacement System
Two mode hybrid:The all-new Chrysler Group HEMI Hybrid will offer our customers the best of both worlds: renowned performance and significantly improved fuel economy,” said Frank Klegon, Executive Vice President – Product Development, Chrysler Group. “With the new HEMI-powered Chrysler Aspen Hybrid, we are delivering the ultimate combination of fuel efficiency, overall performance and capability in a premium full-size SUV.”
The new 5.7-liter HEMI Hybrid is expected to deliver an overall fuel economy improvement of more than 25 percent, including an improvement of nearly 40 percent in the city.
The HEMI powerplant, in hybrid form, will continue to feature Chrysler Group’s Multi-displacement System (MDS), which allows the engine to seamlessly alternate between four-cylinder mode when less power is needed and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. For the fifth year in a row — and every year since its 2003 re-introduction — Chrysler Group’s famous 5.7-liter HEMI engine has earned a place on Ward's 10 Best Engines list.
Two-mode Hybrid
Chrysler Group’s two-mode hybrid powertrain — jointly developed by DaimlerChrysler, General Motors and the BMW Group — represents a major automotive industry milestone due to the unprecedented fully integrated combination of electric motors with a fixed-gear transmission.
As a result of the low- and high-speed electric continuously variable transmission (ECVT) modes, the system is commonly referred to as the two-mode hybrid. However, the sophisticated fuel-saving system also incorporates four fixed gear ratios for high efficiency and power-handling capabilities in a broad variety of vehicle applications. The new Chrysler Aspen Hybrid and Dodge Durango Hybrid vehicles can be powered either by the electric motors or by the 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine – or a combination of the two. During the two ECVT modes and four fixed-gear operations, the hybrid system can use the electric motors for boosting and/or regenerative braking. When full power is needed, the system automatically adjusts for passing, driving steep grades or hauling a trailer. The result is trend-setting hybrid technology that provides superior fuel economy, performance and load-carrying capability.
Last edited by thematrixhasu : 10-08-2007 at 09:13 AM.
I apologize if this question has already been answered somewhere. I couldn't find it in this thead though. According to the 2009 features and changes on the first page of this topic, the 2009 SRT8 will have a 6.1L engine. Is the 500+hp power estimate still accurate? I found one discussion that the new 5.7L engine may have 370+hp, so naturally the 6.1L engine should get a bump in output too.
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!!!!!!!!! 6.4L !!!!!!!!!
!!!!!! >500 Hp !!!!!!
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i wonder if whatever they do to bump a 6.1 to 500hp can be done to previous 6.1s.... but i wonder how they could increase power 75 horse without more displacement from the motor. the 5.7 going from 340 to 370ish seems more reasonable than 425 to 500 without a larger motor. i could be wrong, or maybe there is something in these motors being held back, that we havent been able to access yet.
The only problem is you have to create a new appeal for the car while also keeping your current client base.
This is what needs to be done, keep the external measurements the same add the two mode hybrid hemi on the 300c (the one on the aspen durango prototype) then also give it vvt and mds while also giving it the new 5.7 with 370 hp, so your miles per gallon would be around 24 mpg city because of the hybrid system. Then do the interior over more colors more options and keep the external big box look but refine it similar of how (GM took the old cts and refined the same look but made the new cts.) give it all led lighting which cost less. Then to keep manufacturing cost down, do like acura come with everything but two options all (C's should have a roof, wheels, airbags etc, the only option should be nav or no nav that way you save price. Then add 1500 to the price tag and there you go.
You have to add 1500 to the price tag to make up for the new two mode hemi hybrid with the new 5.7 with vvt and mds. Add 1500 to every 300c, Charger RT, Magnum RT, Grand Cherokee limited, Aspen Limited and Durango Limited. That way it will justify the use in all vehicles and keep manufacturing cost down. I'm sure the system is expensive but spread out over the entire line should bring cost down significantly. The engine bays in all the vehicles are big enough if they keep the cars measurements the same. In doing this you separate the C,RT,and Dur and Aspen limited from the SE, SXT, touring and base models greatly while also improving the company profits and gaining a great deal of demand for a 370 hp 24mpg (city) vehicle for 38000 and 39500 with navigation. Perfect. All options should be included, less manufacturing cost, Less parts cost for Chrysler, Less trouble and heart ache for the consumer. Now you might pay alittle more for the vehicle then you wanted to but With the fuel savings and options included I believe the customer and company can find a happy medium.
THIS IS MY LETTER TO CHRYSLER ON THE NEXT 300 MODEL, WHAT EVER THE LETTER BECOMES , SHOULD BE 300D
CHRYSLER I KNOW YOUR READING THIS PAY ATTENTION.
VVT= variable valve timing
MDS= Multi displacement System
Two mode hybrid:The all-new Chrysler Group HEMI Hybrid will offer our customers the best of both worlds: renowned performance and significantly improved fuel economy,” said Frank Klegon, Executive Vice President – Product Development, Chrysler Group. “With the new HEMI-powered Chrysler Aspen Hybrid, we are delivering the ultimate combination of fuel efficiency, overall performance and capability in a premium full-size SUV.”
The new 5.7-liter HEMI Hybrid is expected to deliver an overall fuel economy improvement of more than 25 percent, including an improvement of nearly 40 percent in the city.
The HEMI powerplant, in hybrid form, will continue to feature Chrysler Group’s Multi-displacement System (MDS), which allows the engine to seamlessly alternate between four-cylinder mode when less power is needed and V-8 mode when more power is in demand. For the fifth year in a row — and every year since its 2003 re-introduction — Chrysler Group’s famous 5.7-liter HEMI engine has earned a place on Ward's 10 Best Engines list.
Two-mode Hybrid
Chrysler Group’s two-mode hybrid powertrain — jointly developed by DaimlerChrysler, General Motors and the BMW Group — represents a major automotive industry milestone due to the unprecedented fully integrated combination of electric motors with a fixed-gear transmission.
As a result of the low- and high-speed electric continuously variable transmission (ECVT) modes, the system is commonly referred to as the two-mode hybrid. However, the sophisticated fuel-saving system also incorporates four fixed gear ratios for high efficiency and power-handling capabilities in a broad variety of vehicle applications. The new Chrysler Aspen Hybrid and Dodge Durango Hybrid vehicles can be powered either by the electric motors or by the 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine – or a combination of the two. During the two ECVT modes and four fixed-gear operations, the hybrid system can use the electric motors for boosting and/or regenerative braking. When full power is needed, the system automatically adjusts for passing, driving steep grades or hauling a trailer. The result is trend-setting hybrid technology that provides superior fuel economy, performance and load-carrying capability.
OK SO ADD STOP START TECHNOLOGY ALONG WITH AHS-C (Advanced Hybrid System) which is the new hybrid secret technology that might be coming in 09 or 10 on the new engine. It was confirmed by a friend of mine.
So with the new 5.7 vvt and mds along with ahs-c and stop start the new 2009 or 2010 300c will have 420 combined hp thats hybrid included, and get 23-25 mpg city and 26-30 mpg highway, Chrysler has a new hit on the way.
Damn the wait though
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