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Old 07-12-2008, 09:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Maintenance schedule so as no to void the warranty

Back in April I bought a preowned 300 Touring that I'm very proud of so far. It had 16,500 miles; now it has 19,500 and I just did its first oil change at the dealer.

The car has powertrain warranty for 80,000 miles or 8 years, and warranty covering everything that's electric in it, for the same length. I also get the oil & filter changes for free every 3,000 miles or 3 months.

When I had my oil & filter changed the other day they didn't mention anything about any maintenance schedule; they only did the 23 point safety inspection for free. Do I need to be following schedule A or B in order to keep my powertrain warranty? And if so, when should I be doing the maintenance, without having skipped any?

I'd rather ask you guys, because the dealer would happily invite me for any kind of maintenance.
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Back in April I bought a preowned 300 Touring that I'm very proud of so far. It had 16,500 miles; now it has 19,500 and I just did its first oil change at the dealer.

The car has powertrain warranty for 80,000 miles or 8 years, and warranty covering everything that's electric in it, for the same length. I also get the oil & filter changes for free every 3,000 miles or 3 months.

When I had my oil & filter changed the other day they didn't mention anything about any maintenance schedule; they only did the 23 point safety inspection for free. Do I need to be following schedule A or B in order to keep my powertrain warranty? And if so, when should I be doing the maintenance, without having skipped any?

I'd rather ask you guys, because the dealer would happily invite me for any kind of maintenance.
Read the manual. I think B relfers to special operating conditions like excessive idling, towing, dusty environment, etc. Otherwise it is A. Many of services are nothing but oil change. For 2008 and forward the service intervals are spread even further. Instead of every 3,000 they say every 6,000
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Read the manual. I think B relfers to special operating conditions like excessive idling, towing, dusty environment, etc. Otherwise it is A. Many of services are nothing but oil change. For 2008 and forward the service intervals are spread even further. Instead of every 3,000 they say every 6,000
Well, I do live in NYC so B might be the one to go with.

What I'm wondering is, am I voiding the powertrain warranty by not doing this maintenance? Or is it just the oil & filter that they care about?
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Well, I do live in NYC so B might be the one to go with.

What I'm wondering is, am I voiding the powertrain warranty by not doing this maintenance? Or is it just the oil & filter that they care about?
I do not see how NYC would qualify it for B. May be it is a bit more dusty but not that dusty, or not so much idling beyond normal unless you use it as a cab.

I would stick to the recommended schedule and not worry too much about it.
Not rotating tires as the schedule prescribes will not void your power train warranty, but shorten life of tires. This does not affect powertrain. Not doing oil changes may affect powertrain.
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I do not see how NYC would qualify it for B. May be it is a bit more dusty but not that dusty, or not so much idling beyond normal unless you use it as a cab.

I would stick to the recommended schedule and not worry too much about it.
Not rotating tires as the schedule prescribes will not void your power train warranty, but shorten life of tires. This does not affect powertrain. Not doing oil changes may affect powertrain.
Great, thanks for clearing things up.

You're right, I'm going to follow schedule A. My next oil & filter change is due at 22,500 miles but schedule A asks for a 21,000 service. I hope it's ok if I do it at 22,500.
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Great, thanks for clearing things up.

You're right, I'm going to follow schedule A. My next oil & filter change is due at 22,500 miles but schedule A asks for a 21,000 service. I hope it's ok if I do it at 22,500.
Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree that you should be following Schedule A. If you read it CLOSELY you'll see it's virtually impossible that 99.9% of us are able to meet ALL the requirements of Schedule A. Remember, you have to meet all the requirements. Why set yourself up for a possible warranty denial claim?

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Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree that you should be following Schedule A. If you read it CLOSELY you'll see it's virtually impossible that 99.9% of us are able to meet ALL the requirements of Schedule A. Remember, you have to meet all the requirements. Why set yourself up for a possible warranty denial claim?

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Hmm, now I'm left wondering because I got the car at 16,500, changed oil&filter at 19,500, but according to Schedule B, service was due at 18,000.
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Hmm, now I'm left wondering because I got the car at 16,500, changed oil&filter at 19,500, but according to Schedule B, service was due at 18,000.
I wouldn't worry about that mileage, nor will your dealer. All I'm saying is the oil is the life blood of your engine and is the most important thing you can do for it IMO. When you think about it, it's not all that expensive.

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Hmm, now I'm left wondering because I got the car at 16,500, changed oil&filter at 19,500, but according to Schedule B, service was due at 18,000.
I believe all the maintenance intervals are a multiple of 3000 miles. I completely agree with Bernie about their importance, though the manual also states: "Under no circumstances should oil change intervals exceed 6,000 miles (10 000 km) or 6 months, whichever comes first."

If you want to get back on track, I think you could safely wait until 24,000 without risking your warranty since that would only be 4500 miles. Or, if that bothers you, do one at 21,750 and then get back on track at 24,000. Do pay attention to the 3-month recommended and 6-month maximum intervals, if you average under 1,000 miles a month.

I'm half-way to my third change now because of the time interval rather than the mileage, at 3300 miles. I intend to switch to fully synthetic at my fourth change. I'll change it at close to the six-month intervals, thereafter.
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For normal useage 6 months and 6000 miles or less is fine! If you live in the big city or out in the desert then I would go with 3 months and 3000 miles. Either case the warranty will be fine!
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