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Old 09-17-2009, 05:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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HID Foglight Best Match

Own 2007 300C SRT8
Can anybody explain which is the best match with the HID Headlights

Foglight HIDGate 6000k or 8000k????
And is our foglight bulb the 9145 or do we have options like the DS1?
Please advise
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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6K will be more pure white and bright, whereas 8K will be a bit less bright and have some degree of blueish tint to it.
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I have the 6000K in all my lights check out these picks.

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Own 2007 300C SRT8
Can anybody explain which is the best match with the HID Headlights

Foglight HIDGate 6000k or 8000k????
And is our foglight bulb the 9145 or do we have options like the DS1?
Please advise
9145 or 9005 are the only two that will fit, but I've read that 9145 seats better.

I'm actually having problems matching right now. I bought both 5000K and 6000K bulbs for my HID kit from HIDGate. The factory HID low beams are 4300K. The 6000K fogs are too blue, and make the factory lows look dull and yellow. The 5000K are too yellow, and to me look just like the factory fogs, just a heck of a lot brighter.

So to answer your question, I'm not really happy with either option...the 6000K looks awesome, but I think you pretty much have to buy 6000K D1S as well for the lows to match. If they made 5300-5500K, it'd probably be the best match.

I didn't take pictures of the 5000K, but here are the 6000K:

Factory fog on the left, 6000K HID fog on the right:



In this picture they look close, but in person the lows look slightly yellow compared to the fogs....the difference isn't huge, but the fogs are so much brighter than the lows that combined with the difference in color it really stands out:
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I can't find that other thread where you were talking about this, Saleen.

B2TN41 - That's a very common question, which from what I have read is still up in the air - reference Saleen's experience.

I finally got my HIDGate 8000K fogs put in to match my HIDGate 8000K lows (no OEM HID)... and even these don't match!!! I can't really decide yet, but my fogs look more whiteish 6000K or so.

Given that they are the same lights from the same company (although one is 9145 and the other is 9006), could it be the actual housings?? Could the projector effect the color differently than the standard fog housing? If so, couldn't this be the same problem that you guys with OEM HID are having when trying to match them up?
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B2TN41,
D1S and D2S are OEM HID capsules. they will not fit a 9145 socket. The A/M HID capsules fit because they have been re-based, or manufactured to be inserted into halogen housing applications. (Not very smart for reflector halogen housings in the first place) However, you CAN get away (sort-of) with A/M HID's in your fogs, because they are so low to the ground, that it offsets some of the glare. (Some-not all) An oncoming driver can still be dazzled by them somewhat. Case and point Saleen's pic. Look how much glare the HID fog is putting out in comparison to the opposite one, and THAT'S in daylight! http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/DSC00089.jpg

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You'll be hard-pressed to find an A/F HID kit for your fogs to match you OEM HID low beams. OEM HID runs at a color temperature of 4300K. A/M kits usually want to entice you with an overkill of blue, 6000K and over, so consequently your A/M fogs will be "bluer". Blue light especially for fogs in actual fog is useless. True fog lights are yellow in color in order to cut through....um well..fog. Our clear "fog" lights on LX's and many other vehicles with clear bulbs, are more of a driving light than anything else.

Fisch.
Your 8000K Low beams won't match your 8000K fogs because of two reasons:
1) Your lows have now colorshifted- HID's color changes after 100hours of use to an even higher color temperature. They might as well be 10.000K or higher depending on how long you've run them. Manufacturers of OEM have defeated this condition with better salts and coatings in the Capsule. However NO A/F HID manufacturer in the world has put in the research, development, or testing to implement this into the cheap A/M components and capsules. Why should they? they are not binded, or contracted by any auto manufacturer, to meet any DOT NTSHA, or ECE regulations. Quantity over quality. And if you bought a kit for about 100.00, you're likely to just buy another one if something goes wrong after about a year, than to claim any warranty. Heck if a A/M capsule goes bad, it's what? 20 bucks? Who's going to claim warranty on that after a year? Any of you ever read the discalimer that came with your kit? I think it starts off as " off-road use only"...... That's how they can get away with selling these kits, because in the end, the consumer takes the fall, and the factory makes money hand over fist. Sure. There will be a warranty claim here and there, if any component fails in say-six months, but overall they are raking it in. Why would they change that formula?


2) Quality come into play again. No A/M HID kit will match another kit because there is poor quality control, EVEN if the kelvin rating is the same. You're lucky the two low beams even match each other PERIOD. It's a hit and miss.
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I can't find that other thread where you were talking about this, Saleen.
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Saleen.
You'll be hard-pressed to find an A/F HID kit for your fogs to match you OEM HID low beams. OEM HID runs at a color temperature of 4300K. A/M kits usually want to entice you with an overkill of blue, 6000K and over, so consequently your A/M fogs will be "bluer". Blue light especially for fogs in actual fog is useless. True fog lights are yellow in color in order to cut through....um well..fog. Our clear "fog" lights on LX's and many other vehicles with clear bulbs, are more of a driving light than anything else.
I ordered the 6000K from the same company - as my fog bulbs are new as well, my hope is that they'll match. I saw an older (late 80s) 5 series beemer with matching HID fogs/lows, both looked to be about 6000K, and it looked great...

As far as en explanation for why the OEM lows look bluer than the 5000K fogs, think it's because they color shifted, or is it that the fogs aren't really 5000K? The 4300K low beams do look bright white...the 5000K fogs look yellow. My 6000K halos are bright white and match the high beams...but the 6000K fogs are blue.
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I don't agree with Vyper about it being hit or miss.. It's never been hit or miss in my experience with the A/M HID kit's I've used from HID Gate so long as they are both new at the same time. Yes they color shift in time and that makes it hard to match them after a year. Replace all the capsules at the same time, they will match, mine do.... And I replaced my low beams after a year and a half and the new 6K's matched my year and a half old driving lights... So I must be the luckiest guy on earth!

I'm one of those guys that thinks the OEM Osram and Valeo stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be either.. You talk about quality control but there are plenty of threads here and on the rest of the net about people losing their OEM HID's after a year.. Ballasts, Capsules, you name it!
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installed the 6000K D1S bulbs from HIDGate, and voila! Perfect match for the 6000K HIDGate fogs...

Honestly, to compare I left one 4300K low & one 6000K low installed, and they're very, very close....if I didn't compare the two, I might think the 6000K was stock, which is exactly what I was hoping for. But of course when compared to the 6000K fogs, the 4300K doesn't match.
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Here's pics - they're bad quality because they're screenshots from my video camera...the color is closer to the bottom picture..I think I just turned them on when I took the top one, so they look bluer than they normally are:




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