MY Supercharged SRT8 - I hoped i wouldnt have to join..

[artichoke]

Originally Posted by sizematters

I cannot state it any clearer.

Nuf said

But you didn't say whether you, yourself, have the GSM s/c system!

Do you?

[Steve Levin]

Originally Posted by Husker

I have worked on Jeeps and off roaded for years and I can say ( after seeing more then one hydrolocked motor) a hydrolocked motor doesn't poop pistons and rods out the exhaust. The ones I have seen have their internals like rods, cranks etc. bent in strange and interesting shapes. I have also seen valves bent as well. But water doesn't burn nor does it compress so it doesn't fill cats and muffles with engine pieces like a blown/over-reved motor does. THe hydrolocked motors I have seen have bent rods and cranks, but again NOT pieces and parts filling the exhaust system...just my 2 cents.

That's been my experience as well. A hydrolocked motor is always that -- an engine so firmly locked that it won't rotate because the rods and crank are so badly bent.

Steve

[ResumeSpeed]

Originally Posted by Northern Rider

With all due respect, there is one major flaw in your position. The Cold Air Intake was a GSM design, was it not?

I passed on your design because the exposed filter was so close to the ground, with no safety overide for accidental water intake.

The Volant, on the other hand, has an air intake tube located very low. Yes it is exposed to potential water pick up. However, the filter is enclosed in a box, located at hood level. It has an auxillary opening for air facing the grille. In the event water enters the pick up tube, the filter will be forced to draw air from the lower pressure area - the second opening, up high.

This is sound engineering and I have personally tested it many times in the extreme conditions we get in my area. Works perfectly.

Cars occasionally drive through standing water. Fact of life. Sound engineering demands that a low filter have some sort of secondary system to prevent water ingestion to the engine.

Just another 2 cents from an ole' gearhead.

Very well stated NR. "Sound engineering" is the key word here, something that from what I have seen is sorely lacking in many of GSM's thrown-together products. Why is it that in every problem case GSM's responses are always "the customer is always wrong"?

Just like "defensive driving", manufacturers have some responsibility to design products in such a way as to be somewhat immune to, in the least, basic customer "errors". Smartly engineered products always have at least a basic level of "protection" built in.

[srt8guy]

GSM - i have had some of the best people look at this engine - and trust me, with the amount of people on here saying the same thing, a bit strange!
You have a lot of work to do to get that system running correctly - of course your going to blame everyone bar your selves, but sometime you gotta step up and admit there coudl poss be some flaws, esp with quite a lot of pissed off customers.
You could mayb sit down and say - ok, lets et a few of these guys together, look at the problems aand resolve them - make the kit work, customer interaction. but No, you just outright blame the driver.
I didnt even drive through a lake (very professional there scott)- there was a small puddle with the slightest of rain.
Im not the type to blame and point fingers and say its all your fault your crap at what you do! i know it takes time and skill and im more than happy to work and find out the flaws, but not now, as far as im concerned you can try fight with the rest of the pissed off customers you will ahve coming through your doors, and someone will take a lawsuit out on you, so ood luck with that!

As for the people with the charger running correctly for them! great im pleased for you - it ran for me very well for quite sometime!

kindest regards
Guy

[Husker]

Originally Posted by obiwan

So there is water in the engine huh?

Sure it got there via the air filter?

What about that water cooled aftercooler?

Maybe a pressure test is in order?

Perhaps a head gasket let loose?

You go Obi!!!

[asabase]

I've had my own fair share of problems with my GSM supercharger, but most of the problems here I never saw on my kit.

Yes, the filter is pretty low, but avoiding big puddles comes with the territory. I drove through a couple puddles without problems. I'd check the intercooler for leaks just in case though. The water could have leaked out the intercooler into the intake.

I never noticed the piggyback controller removing the rev limiter on mine. I don't see how it can either. It just intercepts what is probably the crankshaft position sensor and delays it a bit when under boost.

Which brings me to the next point. The piggyback controller does support timing adjustments. There's a whole table for it based on boost and rpm. Unless for some reason this is in software but not hardware.

I never noticed lean cylinders either. I always had a very rich tune in mine and all my plugs had carbon deposits on them. All looked about the same too.


Now, I did have a problem with the piggy back controller that required RMA. Something in the MAP sensor part of it died and GSM sent me a new one.

I think someone else had a controller die too. I looked inside mine and the company that makes it pots it (covers the circuits with goo to keep the water/corrosion out), but they only pot ONE side of the circuit board. Sorta defeats the purpose. I'd have just used conformal coating myself (which does the same thing).


For what it's worth, I won't be putting the kit back on though. Once I get all the parts gathered up in a box, I'll be willing to sell it to someone on here cheap. The fuel controller is brand new.

[DanRealtor]

Sorry to hear that your SRT-8 motor is blown.

If you sucked up water, whether normally aspirated or super charged, your engine still would have blown. So really your only gripe could be the air intake you purchased led to your engine failure. It has nothing to do with being super charged.

Each of our "Performance Mods" comes with a price. If we squeeze more power out of them faster, we sacrifice longevity. Everything comes with a price.

Now, go buy a 6.4 Crate Motor from DCX and have it installed. Then you will feel much better.

[JimmyBamSlam]

Originally Posted by asabase

For what it's worth, I won't be putting the kit back on though. Once I get all the parts gathered up in a box, I'll be willing to sell it to someone on here cheap. The fuel controller is brand new.

Hmmm, after reading all the posts, and all of the different threads on this issue. I can honestly say"What's the worst that can happen? consider it SOLD!!!! j/K,LOL,LOL,LOL

[asabase]

Yeah, resale value isn't what it was a few months ago, huh? :P

Maybe some camaro or firebird guy wants just the blower.

[michael mulligan]

Originally Posted by artichoke

We have here a rare post, someone who has gotten reliable service with a S/C on a hemi. Here are the ones I have seen: Mulligan, sizematters: an army of 2. It's good to hear that not everyone's S/C is a disaster!

sizematters, is yours a GSM S/C?

i dont have a s/c i have a stroker motor done by jh and yes the service when i have problems became great.michael