this statement is kind of confusing to me.i think you ment should be safe not shouldnt be safe,and are you saying gms doesnt have to test to make it perfect befor they sell it?like by testing on inhouse cars? again i dont think i understand your quote,sory michael.?
I think what he is trying to say is that with so many other manufacturers of blowers, etc. that have worked just fine on other engines, the consumer could understandably 'assume' there should be no problems with the GSM product, even if there really are.
At least I THINK that is the gist of it.
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Sorry- The old double negative! The way they market these would make it appear as thought these kits are safe. They are NOT. Many other kits are safe for many other stock applications however. These guys here have been mislead and it seems wrong.
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From what youre saying the reason the engine blew is because there was water in the engine.
On the Kenne Bell intakes for Mustangs, the tubing goes into the fenderwell and the air filter sits down by the fog light. That can range from 3" to 6" off the ground and they all know thats it stupid to drive through puddles and risk getting water in their motor.
So if you knew how low the air filter was, why are you driving through puddles?
Adding the supercharger to the car is safe only if youve got a good tune. Im sure the 6.1 could easily handle 600+rwhp with the right tune.
Sucks no less and im sorry it happened, but thats driver error and im surprised the dealership is paying anything for this.
Last edited by 03AZRoush : 11-13-2006 at 12:26 PM.
i appreciate all the comments guys! at 22years old - im still learing!! and a tough one it was!! haha
o well - i havent failed - ive just learned what NOT to do with a hemi engine!
and, at least i have been "blessed " with seeing the insides ... kinda... and the workings of a 6.1 hemi!!
Guy
i,m still learning on mine.i did the hennessey 550 kit and had trouble. thanks to the suport of the people on this forum i got help.im still haveing problems,using to mutch oil and hp not up to advertized specs but JH is coming through he paid to take my car back for another trip" two not including original install" last time he changed the heads this time he is rebuilding the beast.origanly scott from GMS told me on the phone that he would never leave a customer hanging .i think he could stand to learn what john learned."HOW TO STAND BEHIND YOUR PRODUCT"good luck with your car michael
Sorry- The old double negative! The way they market these would make it appear as thought these kits are safe. They are NOT. Many other kits are safe for many other stock applications however. These guys here have been mislead and it seems wrong.
From what youre saying the reason the engine blew is because there was water in the engine.
On the Kenne Bell intakes for Mustangs, the tubing goes into the fenderwell and the air filter sits down by the fog light. That can range from 3" to 6" off the ground and they all know thats it stupid to drive through puddles and risk getting water in their motor.
So if you knew how low the air filter was, why are you driving through puddles?
Adding the supercharger to the car is safe only if youve got a good tune. Im sure the 6.1 could easily handle 600+rwhp with the right tune.
Sucks no less and im sorry it happened, but thats driver error and im surprised the dealership is paying anything for this.
You make some valid points, but I think your missing the point. He wasn't the only one that had disasterous results. I'm not sure if you read all the threads and post about Gsm s/c's on this forum. If you have you'd realize that almost everybody that installs one on the Hemi needs a new Hemi sooner rather than later, with absolutely no help from GSM.
A note to GSM: After reading these people's accounts of your product and service, along with your refusal to even make an attempt to help these guys out to try and figure out what's going. I assure you that I will on every opportunity refer people to these threads that keep coming up, so they can read it for themselves. I am only one man. But that is the best that I can do.:soap box:
You make some valid points, but I think your missing the point. He wasn't the only one that had disasterous results. I'm not sure if you read all the threads and post about Gsm s/c's on this forum. If you have you'd realize that almost everybody that installs one on the Hemi needs a new Hemi sooner rather than later, with absolutely no help from GSM.
A note to GSM: After reading these people's accounts of your product and service, along with your refusal to even make an attempt to help these guys out to try and figure out what's going. I assure you that I will on every opportunity refer people to these threads that keep coming up, so they can read it for themselves. I am only one man. But that is the best that I can do.:soap box:
I think your post would have more 'punch' without the smilies...
From what youre saying the reason the engine blew is because there was water in the engine.
On the Kenne Bell intakes for Mustangs, the tubing goes into the fenderwell and the air filter sits down by the fog light. That can range from 3" to 6" off the ground and they all know thats it stupid to drive through puddles and risk getting water in their motor.
So if you knew how low the air filter was, why are you driving through puddles?
Adding the supercharger to the car is safe only if youve got a good tune. Im sure the 6.1 could easily handle 600+rwhp with the right tune.
Sucks no less and im sorry it happened, but thats driver error and im surprised the dealership is paying anything for this.
i beleve this was gms design to have the air filter so low.and if you pay thousands of dollars for a car and thousands more for a mod i think it's probaly safe to assume you can drive it under the same conditions as if it were stock.unles you have one of those warnings on your visor
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