Superchips Info Please....

Racinfan83 · 02-24-2008, 11:27 AM

We are thinking about getting a Superchips programmer and I wanted some feed back on it from those of you that have one - negative and positive. Gas mileage improvement especially. The car is under warranty - so we need something that we can easily put the pcm back to stock when it goes to the dealer. I have a Hypertech in my truck - so I know the basics. Info please??

Mike_Levy · 02-24-2008, 11:39 AM

Get a Predator from DiabloSport. Its much, much better then the SuperChips FlashPaq.

hytham · 02-24-2008, 12:24 PM

I had before 2005 300C, and from my practices I can tell you go with it…

Much safer and became a mature product comparing to DS…

joey · 02-24-2008, 12:29 PM

IMO, if your are looking for performance gains don't waste your money on Superchips. I have never noticed any difference with Superchips, except for a slightly quicker shift at hard/full throttle. If there are actual measurable (dyno, 0-60) performance gains you will not be able to notice them as they are very small. In fact, this dyno comparison shows Superchips was slower than Stock.
Super Chips worth it or not

The best thing about Superchips is the data logging, ability to read/clear trouble codes, set the tire diameter, and increase the speed limiter.
If you want these extra features, than a Superchips for around $100 or less might be worth it.

There are a lot of raves for the Predator (just like there was when Superchips first came out). I think the Predator data logging capture is a little more cumbersome than Superchips, as you need a laptop in your car.
I don't think I have yet seen a convincing Predator dyno on a stock 5.7L that shows an improvement in performance. There might be one, but I can't recall seeing it. I would get a Predator if there was a proven 0-60 gain of 0.2 to 0.3 tenths of a second on a stock 5.7.

Midnightsun300c · 02-24-2008, 03:20 PM

Racinfan83...To consolidate and augment what other have said, the Flashpaq does help the 300C performance, which is a hard thing to quantify, in particular what you would consider performance. The Flashpaq will give you firmer shifts, reduced torque management, higher shift points, the ability to lean your fuel tables, and the ability to burn higher octane gas which in turn allows more timing and less fuel. The leaning of the fuel tables does help gas mileage. The Flashpaq also allows you to change tire sizes and and raise the speed limiter if you are inclined to change from a strictly stock car.

The Flashpaq has been on the market for a couple of years. It has also been replaced by a more advanced tuner in the Predator by many Flashpaq owners. Because of this you can probably find a used Flashpaq for very little cost. I found the Flashpaq very easy to use and very reliable.

In summary, if you plan many performance modifications in the future you might want to skip the Flashpaq and go straight to the Predator. If you plan to stay primarily stock and can pick up a Flashpaq for $50-$100 then it may make more sense to go with the Flashpaq.

Midnightsun300c · 02-24-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joey

I would get a Predator if there was a proven 0-60 gain of 0.2 to 0.3 tenths of a second on a stock 5.7.

I think that your right in saving the 350 odd dollars if you plan to stay stock. Both Diablo and Superchips have dyno runs that show 10-20 hp gains. Without knowing the exact circumstances of the testing its hard to take those gains to the bank or if one actually outperforms the other. I believe both remove a measure of safety built into the stock tune by advancing timing and cutting fuel to achieve their horsepower gains.

For my heavily modified and unique engine setup the Predator is the hands down winner and has given me over a 1.5" 1/4 mile gain from my tune with the Flashpaq . When I started tinkering with my tune in November I was running an abysmal 1/4 in the low 14s(no DA correction) with my current mods. My last run with a CMR tune I was running mid 12s (no DA correction). The ability to tweak the timing and fuel maps along with higher shift points and further reduction to torque management the Predator and CMR tune is a godsend for the heavily modified engines.

Racinfan83 · 02-24-2008, 05:44 PM

We are planning on staying stock. This is my wife's daily driver, she likes going fast - but we won't be racing it or anything like that. If any of you guys have a good used Superchips you'd like to get rid of - pm me.

Any more info also appreciated!