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I have a 2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 convertible. I had my dealer replace the standard 5-spoke wheels that came with the car with the lighter weight SRT Sidewinder wheels. Before the Sidewinders were mounted and balanced I measured the front and rear rims (without lugs, caps or TPMS sensors) at 17.5 lb front and 25 lb rear. Can you tell me the corresponding wheel weights of the standard 5-spoke rim, the new “Razor” rim and the “H”-spoke rim that are options on the 2008 Viper?
My next question is this: I would like to buy another set of Sidewinder rims (or comparable lightweight rim) and mount them with the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires that will come on the 2008 ACR Viper (295/30/18 front and 345/30/19 rear) for driver training school use only. I would still use my original Michelin PS2-equipped wheels and tires for street use. I had planned on installing TPMS sensors on the second set of wheels and had read that the TPMS senor module on the Viper could store data for a second set of rims, tires and TPMS sensors (for a total of 8 rim/tire/TPMS sensors). I have heard, however, from others who have tried this that the unit still has issues recognizing that many rim/tire/TPMS units and displays either a warning light or chime. Have you encountered this problem and if so, is there a workaround? If my only solution is to not install TPMS sensors on the track/driving school rims, will this interfere with the safe and proper functioning of the car? (I will, of course, be checking tire pressures frequently throughout the day when attending driver training events.)
Thanks for your time and a great line of SRT products.
I have a 2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 convertible. I had my dealer replace the standard 5-spoke wheels that came with the car with the lighter weight SRT Sidewinder wheels. Before the Sidewinders were mounted and balanced I measured the front and rear rims (without lugs, caps or TPMS sensors) at 17.5 lb front and 25 lb rear. Can you tell me the corresponding wheel weights of the standard 5-spoke rim, the new “Razor” rim and the “H”-spoke rim that are options on the 2008 Viper?
My next question is this: I would like to buy another set of Sidewinder rims (or comparable lightweight rim) and mount them with the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires that will come on the 2008 ACR Viper (295/30/18 front and 345/30/19 rear) for driver training school use only. I would still use my original Michelin PS2-equipped wheels and tires for street use. I had planned on installing TPMS sensors on the second set of wheels and had read that the TPMS senor module on the Viper could store data for a second set of rims, tires and TPMS sensors (for a total of 8 rim/tire/TPMS sensors). I have heard, however, from others who have tried this that the unit still has issues recognizing that many rim/tire/TPMS units and displays either a warning light or chime. Have you encountered this problem and if so, is there a workaround? If my only solution is to not install TPMS sensors on the track/driving school rims, will this interfere with the safe and proper functioning of the car? (I will, of course, be checking tire pressures frequently throughout the day when attending driver training events.)
Thanks for your time and a great line of SRT products.
The TPMS for the Viper only holds 4 wheels in memory. It can not support 8. As long as you mantain proper pressure in the tires you will be fine. Eventually the TPMS will set a fault and turn on the low tire warning lamp but it will not impact the function of the vehicle. When the original tires are put back on it will clear the fault and lamp as soon as you go over 20MPH.
I noticed a black spoiler on the front of the Challenger SRT. It looks like that is easily replaceable, right? I seem to keep hitting my Charger SRT fascia on curbs etc., and this looks like a good solution to the problem.
I noticed a black spoiler on the front of the Challenger SRT. It looks like that is easily replaceable, right? I seem to keep hitting my Charger SRT fascia on curbs etc., and this looks like a good solution to the problem.
Yesterday I had to look for a new Goodyear RSA-EMT for my 2007 Jeep SRT8, and found them very few and far between. Is there another runflat that you would recommend? Since I live in SoCal a tire geared more towards performance rather than snow duty would be great.
Any manufacturer would be fine. The Michelins on my Viper were pretty easy to come by and also had the 12 month hazard warranty.
The RS-A's are pretty easy to get from the Tire Rack in South Bend and you can get a warranty with them. We don't know of nor have tested any other runflats on the vehicle. The GCSRT8 is tuned around that RS-A tire, so no complaining allowed if you deviate. We predict you'll think the steering is pretty dead and the rear end pretty waggy with non-runflats.
Question #1 - I am eagerly awaiting the dealerships' ability to take orders for the 2009 Challenger. Will there be more rear fenderwell room in the production version as compared to the concept vehicle to accommodate larger tires? It didn't look like there was much room for improvement back there on the concept vehicle, and I suspect the 6.1 (or 6.4) and manual gear box will make for a potential traction issue.
Question #2 - I have upgraded my SRT-4 to the Mopar Stage 2 w/turbo toys. My question is regarding CARB certification. When ordered it was clearly not intended for CARB clearance, and the dealership held delivery on my kit saying they were waiting for the CARB number. They released it to me a week later, but no comment on CARB number. Are the Stage packages CARB certified and if so what are the numbers?
Thanks again for entertaining our questions and for making driving fun again!
Question #1 - I am eagerly awaiting the dealerships' ability to take orders for the 2009 Challenger. Will there be more rear fenderwell room in the production version as compared to the concept vehicle to accommodate larger tires? It didn't look like there was much room for improvement back there on the concept vehicle, and I suspect the 6.1 (or 6.4) and manual gear box will make for a potential traction issue.
Question #2 - I have upgraded my SRT-4 to the Mopar Stage 2 w/turbo toys. My question is regarding CARB certification. When ordered it was clearly not intended for CARB clearance, and the dealership held delivery on my kit saying they were waiting for the CARB number. They released it to me a week later, but no comment on CARB number. Are the Stage packages CARB certified and if so what are the numbers?
The Mopar Stage 2 Kit does not have a CARB number. It is not emissions certified and is for off road use only.
Thanks again for entertaining our questions and for making driving fun again!
I know this has been addressed before, but I recall it was an issue with the front suspension. Well I replaced it, and am still having the issue...
I have a 2006 Charger SRT-8. I have replaced the stock suspension with KW V2's and am still getting the same front end thunking noise. It is intermittent, so the dealer thinks I am nuts.
I know this has been addressed before, but I recall it was an issue with the front suspension. Well I replaced it, and am still having the issue...
I have a 2006 Charger SRT-8. I have replaced the stock suspension with KW V2's and am still getting the same front end thunking noise. It is intermittent, so the dealer thinks I am nuts.
I have a 2008 Challenger on order, but I have to drive over 800 miles to bring it home. Should I try and do some city driving before I hit the highway home or will the straight highway be ok for break in?
Thanks for doing this! Can't wait to get my Challenger!
I have a 2008 Challenger on order, but I have to drive over 800 miles to bring it home. Should I try and do some city driving before I hit the highway home or will the straight highway be ok for break in?
Thanks for doing this! Can't wait to get my Challenger!
Owners manual will tell you to be nice to it for the first 500 miles.
I would certainly put a tank of fuel thru it minimizing time at WOT, check all the fluids and it should be good.
WE do a very specific 14 hour breakin on new engines. At 30 mph , thats 700 miles . Diffs break in in 200 miles of driving with some amount of gentle cornerring.
I guess tonight all I'm looking for is some insight as to how much longer I'm going to have to wait till the Kicker system is available. I'm going on to near 7 months and still can't get my order to go through for my 08 Jeep GC SRT8. The Canadian and American Jeep sites have still not been updated.
March 10th has come and gone. Do you guys have anything encouraging for me this evening? From last month's session I was really countiing on better news. I called my dealer a few minutes ago and still nothing. Thanks!
I guess tonight all I'm looking for is some insight as to how much longer I'm going to have to wait till the Kicker system is available. I'm going on to near 7 months and still can't get my order to go through for my 08 Jeep GC SRT8. The Canadian and American Jeep sites have still not been updated.
March 10th has come and gone. Do you guys have anything encouraging for me this evening? From last month's session I was really countiing on better news. I called my dealer a few minutes ago and still nothing. Thanks!
Not sure if these have been asked before but here goes.
What differential is going into the Challenger?
Is it something that can be retrofitted to the current crop of 4 door SRT's?
Would one be able to (mechanically) fit the manual transmission from a Challenger into a '06 SRT? I know that their would be software issues but would the parts, linkage etc. bolt up?
How much cam lift are the stock 6.1L SRT8 heads rated for? I see a lot of people spending money on upgraded their heads with aftermarket springs and retainers only to have those springs fail on even stock cams. Are the 6.1L springs safe to run most aftermarket cams? I realize an aftermarket cam voids the warranty and is difficult to say it is ok. Please include a disclaimer…this is for a crate motor with no warranty…Also, the mopar cam for the 392 (6.1 based) crate motor specifically states not for use with the stock pistons due to the valve clearance. Are the springs/retainers on the heads used on the 392s different than the 6.1?
How much cam lift are the stock 6.1L SRT8 heads rated for? I see a lot of people spending money on upgraded their heads with aftermarket springs and retainers only to have those springs fail on even stock cams. Are the 6.1L springs safe to run most aftermarket cams? I realize an aftermarket cam voids the warranty and is difficult to say it is ok. Please include a disclaimer…this is for a crate motor with no warranty…Also, the mopar cam for the 392 (6.1 based) crate motor specifically states not for use with the stock pistons due to the valve clearance. Are the springs/retainers on the heads used on the 392s different than the 6.1?
>0.55 inches of lift on a stock cam. The cam is more agressive than an old 340 Hi po cam. We really do not test aftermarket cams in production motors. The cams are computer designed with specific ramps to allow a best spring comprimise design to work. We need to balance performance, fuel economy and durability. All of the Mopar 392 parts are from Comp Cam .
Are the manual trans Challengers going to be part of the Track Experience? If so will they be used on the road courses or only in a limited capacity like the Vipers?
Is their a chance of Skip Barber getting back to running the TE (or any other outfit) or is Richard Petty going to be doing it for the foreseeable future?
Hi, first of all I think it's great when the auto industry actually takes the time to converse with, not just the consumer base, but its loyal fan base as well and thank you for whatever answers you can give us :biggrin:.
Question #1: My first question probably can't be answered directly since you can't divulge any future product information. However I was curious to know if there is at least a possibility that future Charger SRT8s upgraded to the LY platform will perhaps receive a manual transmission? It just seems fitting that Charger SRT8s should be given a manual now since the Challenger will be receiving one. Plus the addition of a manual transmission could steal sales away from the new Pontiac G8 threat now looming over the Charger's shoulders IMO.
Question #2: The Challenger will undoubtedly be given retro colors in limited addition packages such as the Charger does. But I was wondering if the Challenger could be ordered in retro colors such as Torred, PlumCrazy, or Sublime without the need of waiting for a special limited addition? And how about retro decals such as a T/A stripe (Replace T/A with SRT) down the side?
Once again, thanks for taking the time to read over our questions and answering them to the best of your ability. MOPAR RULES!
Hi, first of all I think it's great when the auto industry actually takes the time to converse with, not just the consumer base, but its loyal fan base as well and thank you for whatever answers you can give us :biggrin:.
Question #1: My first question probably can't be answered directly since you can't divulge any future product information. However I was curious to know if there is at least a possibility that future Charger SRT8s upgraded to the LY platform will perhaps receive a manual transmission? It just seems fitting that Charger SRT8s should be given a manual now since the Challenger will be receiving one. Plus the addition of a manual transmission could steal sales away from the new Pontiac G8 threat now looming over the Charger's shoulders IMO.
Question #2: The Challenger will undoubtedly be given retro colors in limited addition packages such as the Charger does. But I was wondering if the Challenger could be ordered in retro colors such as Torred, PlumCrazy, or Sublime without the need of waiting for a special limited addition? And how about retro decals such as a T/A stripe (Replace T/A with SRT) down the side?
Once again, thanks for taking the time to read over our questions and answering them to the best of your ability. MOPAR RULES!
Thanks for doing this. That's why Chrysler is the best because they care about what their customers want.
I have a suggestion and a couple questions.
1. Have you considered setting up MDS to work like the BMW M feature. Where maybe you have a switch with 3 modes; cruise(4 cylinder mode), sport(6 cylinder mode) and SRT(full power mode). Just a thought because I have seen a lot of complaints about the reaction of MDS on the forums and also this may allow you to put it on SRT models.
2. I know that you can't comment on future products... but, any plans on putting the manual from the Challenger into the Charger? I prefer the look of the Charger over the Challenger but I will never drive an automatic unless it is a DSG.
3. Any chance the LY platform will shave some pounds from the LX?
4. Why hasn't the Viper gone to an Aluminum frame? Less weight increases acceleration, handling, MPG and reduces breaking distance.
Thanks for doing this. That's why Chrysler is the best because they care about what their customers want.
I have a suggestion and a couple questions.
1. Have you considered setting up MDS to work like the BMW M feature. Where maybe you have a switch with 3 modes; cruise(4 cylinder mode), sport(6 cylinder mode) and SRT(full power mode). Just a thought because I have seen a lot of complaints about the reaction of MDS on the forums and also this may allow you to put it on SRT models.
2. I know that you can't comment on future products... but, any plans on putting the manual from the Challenger into the Charger? I prefer the look of the Charger over the Challenger but I will never drive an automatic unless it is a DSG.
3. Any chance the LY platform will shave some pounds from the LX?
4. Why hasn't the Viper gone to an Aluminum frame? Less weight increases acceleration, handling, MPG and reduces breaking distance.
I understand that the Challenger with the 6 speed will have a different rear end ratio than the auto. Would there be problems involved in putting one of these rear ends in an automatic car after purchase? Thanks for listeneing
Your question is confusing so I'll answer in generic terms.... the trans controller uses axle ratio and wheel speed as part of it's control logic. So changing to ANY axle ratio besides 3.06 will result in a trans limp-in condition. Sorry.
Thanks for participating, once again, with one of the owner forums.
My question is more of a suggestion.
You've heard that many folks prefer the KW or MOPAR coilover system to the stock system. Would the SRT group consider offering that as an option for order on a new vehicle build sheet or, possibly, consider building the cars and offering them for sale equipped in that manner from the factory?
First off, thanks for providing us all with some awesome products. Just did the SRT Experience in Portland, OR and had an absolute blast. I'll be adding one a year to my vacation list just for fun. I will say that 600hp Viper is an absolute beast, and I never thought I'd say I was able to do a four wheel drift in a Jeep SRT8 on the Auto cross course, with ESP on!
Now to the questions:
1. What advantages do you see by adding a Quaife LSD?
My 300C SRT8 is daily driven in Seattle(rain country), sees the 1/4 mile on occasion, and after the SRT TE it will see a road course here and there. My biggest problem with the torque/brake diff is that when on wet roads, taking corners can be a trick.
2. Tires, Is there a substantial amount of performance to be gained by switching from RSAs to the F1s? I run RSAs and after 23K miles they feel a little greasy. If I switched to F1s for track use would the gain in traction make adding a Quaife overkill?
First off, thanks for providing us all with some awesome products. Just did the SRT Experience in Portland, OR and had an absolute blast. I'll be adding one a year to my vacation list just for fun. I will say that 600hp Viper is an absolute beast, and I never thought I'd say I was able to do a four wheel drift in a Jeep SRT8 on the Auto cross course, with ESP on!
Now to the questions:
1. What advantages do you see by adding a Quaife LSD?
My 300C SRT8 is daily driven in Seattle(rain country), sees the 1/4 mile on occasion, and after the SRT TE it will see a road course here and there. My biggest problem with the torque/brake diff is that when on wet roads, taking corners can be a trick.
2. Tires, Is there a substantial amount of performance to be gained by switching from RSAs to the F1s? I run RSAs and after 23K miles they feel a little greasy. If I switched to F1s for track use would the gain in traction make adding a Quaife overkill?
1.) The Quaife will transfer torque to the outside wheel almost instantaneously.
2.) The F1s are sticker than the RS-A's. About 0.03g on the skidpad, 2 mph in the slalom, and WAY stickier in the rain. We went 6 seconds faster around a flooded autocross with full tread F1s compared to RS-As at Goodyear. The RS-A's are amazinly capable in the snow and F1s are helpless. Your choice. The Quaife is pricy, but works well regardless of tire.
I assume you're referring to seeing this during an aggressive launch (WOT). The shift points are selected for optimum acceleration and repeatability. That said, the tachometer has a slight lag to the tach (most evident in first gear because the GC accelerates so damn fast) so the reality is you're a bit above 5k during the first shift. You can play with autostick but my money is on the computer beating you every time.
Electronic Stability Program requires the throttle to be electronic so it can take it away from the driver to stabilize the car. Not only that, ESP will be mandated as of 2012. Big brother doesn't trust you to lift off the throttle when you should be.
1. Will lowering the Ram SRT-10 1" - 1.5" front and rear decrease the performance handling designed into the truck or enhance them? I want a cleaner look to the profile, but dont want to mess with the handling characteristics.
2. I want a nice deep and low exhaust note, what exhaust system do you recommend? I have always liked the notes from a Flowmaster on my Chevy V-8's but I know its different from engine to engine and I want the best sound for my SRT-10. I want it to sound as bad as it looks.....
Thanks for the great work on the SRT line of cars and trucks, you guys dont mess around and all the comments I get on my truck show the respect the public has for your work.
1. Will lowering the Ram SRT-10 1" - 1.5" front and rear decrease the performance handling designed into the truck or enhance them? I want a cleaner look to the profile, but dont want to mess with the handling characteristics.
2. I want a nice deep and low exhaust note, what exhaust system do you recommend? I have always liked the notes from a Flowmaster on my Chevy V-8's but I know its different from engine to engine and I want the best sound for my SRT-10. I want it to sound as bad as it looks.....
Thanks for the great work on the SRT line of cars and trucks, you guys dont mess around and all the comments I get on my truck show the respect the public has for your work.
Per the Mopar integrated iPod adaptor for the MyGIG radio (p/n 82210787AB) - I understand that this adaptor is not compatible with the 2008 RER MyGIG navigation radios, and that 2009 production radios will address this issue. Question: Will there be a solution/fix for 2008 MyGIG RER owners?
The Volant Cold Air Intakes uses the hood scoop air for input into the engine. How would the decrease in cooling air flow through the engine compartment affect performance?
The Volant Cold Air Intakes uses the hood scoop air for input into the engine. How would the decrease in cooling air flow through the engine compartment affect performance?
We do spend time trying to find the best location for cold air as we realize it creates the best POWER. One needs to also protect for snow packing, water crossing events and poorly located birds.
The little air that you might be stealing will not affect cooling flow unless it is 25% of the cooling flow and you are flat out accross the desert.
Does the Challenger have the "dive plane" winglets on the splitter like some car mags say? Will the engine output for the STRT8 be increased? (6.4 litre?)
Does the Challenger have the "dive plane" winglets on the splitter like some car mags say? Will the engine output for the STRT8 be increased? (6.4 litre?)
As Car and Driver says, the dive planes did not make it on the Challenger. I think the Motor Trend site has some pictures of mules at the track with some prototype dive planes on.
Do you know exactly where the amp is in the Caliber SRT-4 with the kicker sound system? Is it in the same place as a Caliber with the MusicGate sound system (above where the spare tire would be)? I'm also dumbfounded as to why the SRT-4 ships with a standard sound system and you can spend less money on an R/T and get the MusicGate standard?
Not really much of a question here, but more of a customer feedback type thing. Dealers need to be better informed about certain SRT products. The Caliber SRT-4 for example there are so many salesmen at dealers telling people that the Caliber SRT-4 is AWD. Most of them never take the shock spacers out and don't even know they're there. This isn't just one particular dealer, its dealers all over the US.
You guys put out kick @ss products... Keep up the good work!
Do you know exactly where the amp is in the Caliber SRT-4 with the kicker sound system? Is it in the same place as a Caliber with the MusicGate sound system (above where the spare tire would be)? I'm also dumbfounded as to why the SRT-4 ships with a standard sound system and you can spend less money on an R/T and get the MusicGate standard?
Not really much of a question here, but more of a customer feedback type thing. Dealers need to be better informed about certain SRT products. The Caliber SRT-4 for example there are so many salesmen at dealers telling people that the Caliber SRT-4 is AWD. Most of them never take the shock spacers out and don't even know they're there. This isn't just one particular dealer, its dealers all over the US.
You guys put out kick @ss products... Keep up the good work!
We have a Kick-butt Kicker system late to the gate (pun intended) for the Caliber SRT4. The early cars were lined up with a basic system with intent of having the Kicker system as the audio upgrade box you would check. Kicker is now available as the upgraded audio system.
The 8 channel amp is in the same place, and even looks identical to the R/T audio amp, but has Kicker guts in it.
No spare tire for SRT's, you get a can of inflator snot in it's place.
About the spring spacers.... dealer training and communication can be very s l o w at times. This is why we put hang tags on every mirror. A famous quote here at SRT, "Trust the dipstick in your engine, not the one at the dealer."
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