Wanted: More Gas...Belch

[Rambit]

I couldn't help but reply to this idiotic post from an idiotic member from an idiotic forum in a Jeep SRT8 discussion:

Originally posted by MYnameSUX
"One of the best things about the Grand Cherokee SRT8 is how precisely it handles."

"The Grand Cherokee SRT8 is a classic gas-guzzler. The EPA says it gets 12 mpg in city driving and 15 mpg on the highway. Madeleine notes that's worse than the already dismal mileage he gets on his conventional Jeep -- 15 mpg in the city and 19 mpg on the highway. We averaged around 12 mpg during the week we tested the SRT8."

*Oh, no, not that! Perhaps these individuals are upset with the H2's EPA fuel-economy ratings: 10 city and 13 highway. We averaged 12 mpg over 1600 miles.*

It has the same damn fuel econ. as a H2, for that jeep gets 2 middle fingers. Burning all that gas has to make some kind of pollution, so thank you for helping to contribute to the destruction of the planet. Even if it is not that bad and blah blah blah, I would think that you would want your children and their children and so on to live comfortably. If we don't start making a change, then who will?

~The H2 is a polluter. Based on G.M.'s optimistic claim that it gets 13 mpg, an H2 will produce 3.4 metric tons of carbon emissions in a typical year, nearly double that of G.M.'s Chevrolet Malibu sedan.~

I hope that is true because it is a damn good point, even if it is referring to the H2.

Even if you have the money to afford gas does that mean you have to be wasting it because you want an uber fast car?? Also, I hope you are going to take that to the track, I would seriously hope you would not be racing the damn thing on the streets. Don't get innocent people involved in your **** because you have a fast car and want to show off or get an adrenaline rush, screw that.

The information in quotes came from. http://info.detnews.com/autosconsum...ex.cfm?id=21253
* From - http://www.caranddriver.com/article...article_id=8892
~ From - http://www.fuh2.com/~

If any of this information is wrong, tell me so i can change it.

MY REPLY:

Isn't it a little strange that you belong to a car forum and you talk about the enviornment? You are in the minority here IMO. I personaly don't care about any of that. While you are saving gas for us, we the masses thank you from the bottom of our hearts for allowing us to have what you don't require. I hope there are lots and lots of people like you so we can have even more of your unused gas.

If you felt that strongly about excessive gas consumption, you would be walking, riding a bike or jogging to your favourite tree where you could give it a big old hug and a juicy wet kiss. We the masses actually don't give any of this a second thought. We leave this sort of worrying to those like you...the minority. You can bring this up till you're blue in the face, we're not listening. We can hardly wait to start drilling in Alaska for more of this stuff.

As for racing on the street, Now you're going to tell us you've never exceeded the speed once in your life. You never got the urge to mash it to the floor either. I would be more concerned about people like you putt-putting along preoccupied with saving the planet rather than focusing on what you're doing...DRIVING slowly, conserving your precious gas. Me, I floor it around those like you thinking what a loser you must be in your 3 cylinder disposable bic lighter car. The wave you're getting as we pass you by is our little thank you gesture for letting us have your gas.

Maybe rather than wasting the electricity your computer is using while fighting for the planet on a car forum, you could channel all that pent up emotion and put it to better use. They must have boring environmental forums out there where you could better spend your time trashing us gas guzzlers and probably have a more sympathetic audience.

Rambit - belch, you're GIVING me gas! Hey thanks again, I owe ya

Pass the gas please!

Gas passer Rambit...belch again

[stevesrt8]

while they are not all so idiotic, many of the so called tree huggers are so ill informed it makes you want to puke!

Fact: the world is awash in oil! There's so much left we would have no worries except for the political "football" that's played with drilling and refining it!

While I am no Hummer fan (the vehicle-not its namesake!), I believe you have a right to choose. If these idiots had their way they would impose their vision of conservation on all of us and make us all drive hybrid shoe boxes. Plus the complete bull**** about pollution... the average 2006 car is practically cleaning the air it uses, almost nothing comes out the tailpipes except water vapor!


Steve
06 CSRT8
all stock all original
everything but DVD
waiting...

[vvv90]

Originally Posted by stevesrt8

The average 2006 car is practically cleaning the air it uses, almost nothing comes out the tailpipes except water vapor!

Wuh? ... ummm...I'm a major gas hog but don't you think you're taking the argument back the other way a little too far? I mean, nothing but water vapor? come on now.

[krisbenson]

Rambit,
Why can't Chrysler make our vehicles more efficient? Lexus has the LS replacement in the show circuit with a V8/Hybrid power train. Great fuel economy and the performance of 450+HP powered vehicle.

Hybrids make even more sense when it comes to SUV's. The biggest reason is that they have the room to store those batteries.

I'm sure the ol'5.7L Hemi (MDS) plus a Hybrid power train could make a SRT-8 slayer.

Powerful vehicles that are environmentally conscious too. Hybrids don't only have to be driven by "Hollywood types" make them cool for the masses.

So let the environmentalists and the safety Nazi's rant. On occasion their constant bitching prompts engineers to think different and come up with something we can actually use.

[krisbenson]

Maybe stevesrt8 and Rambit can suck on each others tail pipes....

...after all its only water

[goddardzilla]

My one and only reply

Environmentalists make out that the planet is some kind of miraculous, self-sustaining entity that engineering is ruining. They see the car, the jet engine, and the gun as instruments of the devil, but the mosquito - one of nature's more obvious blunders; has killed more than all three put together. Not to worry though - genetic engineers will eventually fix that one for you too.

Engineers design all the life saving medical accoutraments that our environmentalists will avail themselves of, to as needed save their tree-hugging lives. Refuse dialysis, antibiotics, a pacemaker, not them. All delivered by the demon motor truck to a hospital.

I feel for engineering students these days. When they get a job the pay is insulting. There’s no real respect from the community. They have to operate with the dragging anchor of environmentalism permanently attached to their thoughts.

Performance and enjoyment in cars is back in town, if that gives you acid in your stomach take a pill. Dont ply your environmental wares in a performance car forum, and I wont chuck my waste engine oil in your back yard - deal?

I say to this person: you're a parasite on the arse of a car forum - remember Audi's engineers have given the car the edge to win many a rally championship. You should get your bike out now, and cycle off forum, or shut your hypocritical mouth.

Zilla

[stevesrt8]

Let them eat... sunshine?

Whatever, just not here. Only real car people need apply. I'm sure there's a hybrid/high technology car forum somewhere for you, man.

I respect your right to your opinion. I just don't agree with you. Learn the facts and become educated on ALL sides of an issue. We'd have all been much better off if the money spent on alternative energy vehicles was simply spent buying older vehicles off the road and inspecting new ones for compliance!

Of course that's if you really wanted cleaner air and not just weird hybrid powertrains and/or bizarre political leverage for your particular spin.


Steve
06 CSRT8
all stock all original
everything but DVD
still waiting...

[Solex]

In addition to my 300C I also own some vintage 60s sports cars. Here in Cali they tried to pass a law basically requring smog checks for cars built after 1960 as opposed to the current law which is 1974. It was a barely-disguised scam to get the old cars off the road so people would be forced to buy new ones.

There was no way that California was going to permit that- the aftermarket business for cars in Cali (gotta love the bling) is a billion dollar industry. Believe me I got on the net and wrote my State Assemblyman that he would be looking for a job as of the next primary if he supported the bill. He didn't.

We classic car owners felt we were being penalized for owning vintage cars. Why should we also be penalized for owning cars that obviously are not fuel efficient? Hell, the SRT8 owners have to pony up an extra 2100.00 "Gas Guzzler" tax before they even get to drive it.

If the car passes smog and is legal to drive I have a hard time understanding why anyone would waste their energy complaining about it. If you feel that strongly about it ride a bike or take public transportation.

Don't preach to me. Just lead by example...

My .02

Andy in SoCal

[Rambit]

Originally Posted by stevesrt8

Let them eat... sunshine?

Whatever, just not here. Only real car people need apply. I'm sure there's a hybrid/high technology car forum somewhere for you, man.

I respect your right to your opinion. I just don't agree with you. Learn the facts and become educated on ALL sides of an issue. We'd have all been much better off if the money spent on alternative energy vehicles was simply spent buying older vehicles off the road and inspecting new ones for compliance!

Of course that's if you really wanted cleaner air and not just weird hybrid powertrains and/or bizarre political leverage for your particular spin.


Steve
06 CSRT8
all stock all original
everything but DVD
still waiting...

That's my point and I presume zilla's as well. It just struck me as a hypocritical remark to be making on a car forum. And what would a hybrid vehicle with an aftermarket catback system sound like anyway? I have visions of a loud sewing machine.

As for the comment about sucking someone elses tail pipe by krisbenson...I'm not the one claiming zero emmissions, so you can put that in your pipe and suck on it! Maybe you should put a bottle of Pepto Bismal in your tank with every fill up to save gas too. Save that for the Liberal minded folks.

Rambit

[Northern Rider]

Politicians and lefties love the environmental bandwagon. Up here, one of Canada's major industries and exports is softwood, producing among other things, newsprint.

Every second Tuesday, I watch my neighbours bundle up their old newspapers and place them curbside in a black plastic box, to be picked up for recycling.

Every single one I have spoken to firmly believes that they are helping the environment. They couldn't be further from the truth.

First off, a big old battered-up diesel truck, belching hydrocarbons, lumbers around while workers heave the bundles aboard. Then the paper has to be sorted and stripped of its ink, using energy, caustic dangerous chemicals, all the while consuming taxpayers' precious dollars.

The other, cheaper alternative, is to buy new newsprint. This is also environmentally sound, because in Canada, for every tree harvested, 8 to 10 are planted in its place. Our forests have actually expanded over 20% in recent years, because of this practice. These trees consume carbon dioxide, filter out other crap from the air, and give off oxygen (a very handy gas; especially if you happen to be a large mammal).

The industry is very labour intensive, employing vast numbers of workers. The new paper is also less expensive than recycled newsprint. Needless to say, I do not recycle paper.

Now don't get me started about global warming and the melting of the polar ice caps . . .