10,000 miles....new rotors and tires??

[jjacob1322]

I have had the rotors replaced at 10,000 miles...still pulsating..
Also, my front tires are almost GONE at 11,000. Has anyone had any issues with tires? Dealer says " I must of hit a pothole"......Any help would be great.....I WILL NOT replace tires every 10,000 miles.
Thanks

[jconnolly1119]

Average lifespan of a High-performance tire, and driving an SRT8 the way DCX designed the car to be driven (lead-foot) is probably right around where you're at. A few guys have had to replace as early as 8K and some have made it to 15K, but unfortunately, tire expense is something you'll have to get used to if you really "drive" your car------and this is true for ANY performance car.........

Pulsating????Go back to your dealership, because you have an issue that needs to be addressed. Grooving......nothing you can do till DCX(brembo) comes up with a permanent fix, bit it sounds like you've got another issue altogether.....

BTW: Warranty on the Brembo rig is 12M 12K

[gritz45]

With the weight of the car and the inability to rotate the performance compound tires, life span will be short, although I am a little surprised they are gone at 10K(unless they have seen track time). I usually get about 15-18K out of similar tires on my Mustang(which I run the hell out of, with negative camber in front), but it's 1000lbs lighter and I can rotate them. I was anticipating getting 20-25K out of the brakes(again assuming no track use) but that is starting to appear to be optimistic. I only have 3500 miles on my car, but it is apparent that these cars consume fuel, brakes, and tires like a fat man at an all you can eat buffet. This is the consequence of hot rodding. Brake dust and frequent repairs(from performance brakes that work as designed), short tire life, transmission life, half shaft or drive shaft life, etc..., are all part of hot rodding. After over 30 years of doing it, this fact of life has not changed. You either accept it and pay for it, or stop doing it.

[s420merc]

So you dont think the cars will hold up well over the long term. Meaning at about 30-50k miles we will see busted trans and rear ends.

[gritz45]

If you are hot rodding, i.e. drag racing(particularly with drag radials or slicks), visiting the track on track days, street racing, doing brake torque burnouts for your friends, consistently driving at very high speeds, etc... you will decrease the life of almost every stressed mechanical component on the car from that of normal use. When major failures will occur or how much the component's "normal life" is reduced is impossible to quantify. Most of the drive train components on these cars are "beefed up" to allow a larger performance envelope, but as you can see from the brake and tire issues, this comes at a price. This only worsens when engines are modified for more horsepower, gears are changed to multiply torque, etc.... Again, this is the risk of hot rodding, and for those that love it and can afford it, it is an acceptable risk.

[Moose]

Originally Posted by gritz45

If you are hot rodding, i.e. drag racing(particularly with drag radials or slicks), visiting the track on track days, street racing, doing brake torque burnouts for your friends, consistently driving at very high speeds, etc... you will decrease the life of almost every stressed mechanical component on the car from that of normal use. When major failures will occur or how much the component's "normal life" is reduced is impossible to quantify. Most of the drive train components on these cars are "beefed up" to allow a larger performance envelope, but as you can see from the brake and tire issues, this comes at a price. This only worsens when engines are modified for more horsepower, gears are changed to multiply torque, etc.... Again, this is the risk of hot rodding, and for those that love it and can afford it, it is an acceptable risk.

Not arguing here, but need to make a few points. One, you can rotate the tires (wheels) from front to back (at least on my SRT). Two, there are several members, SRT and non SRT that have really stressed their cars with mega miles and have not been able to document any problems.

You make a lot of very valid points, gritz45, but these cars can really take the abuse.

[jconnolly1119]

Originally Posted by s420merc

So you dont think the cars will hold up well over the long term. Meaning at about 30-50k miles we will see busted trans and rear ends.

As soon as a few who beat the hell of our cars cross the 30-50K mile mark, we'll certainly find out. If you drive your car somewhat normally (which is still pretty aggressive for an SRT8) you should be fine........rag it out on a constant basis, and something will have to give......sooner or later.....

unfortunately, only a few have crossed the 30K mark......time will tell

[gritz45]

All of you guy's points are valid, and I think we are all kindred spirits when it comes to cars and how we like to use them. My comments are based mostly on past experience, for as pointed out above few, if any, of us have long term or high mileage experience with these particular cars. My impression with the car so far is that it is well engineered and outfitted component wise to withstand a very high level of performance. With basically bolt on modifications, proper maintenance and reasonably sensible driving(whatever that is) I think the cars will be very durable(or DCX would not sell them and offer the warranty that they do). Having said that, every component has it's design and fatigue limit, and many on this forum(myself included), given sufficient time, will probably discover those limits on highly stressed components. When you eliminate the annoying electronic protection for some of those components, increase HP/TQ substantially, add torque multiplying gears, etc... you rapidly move away from stock reliability in my experience. These cars may be different, and I hope they are. It would be interesting to see the service requirements on the Track Experience vehicles, which as far as I could tell were stock. BTW, regarding the tire rotation issue, my front and rear tires are a different size, so while you could rotate them, I don't think you would want to.

[jjacob1322]

The backs are still close to full tread, the fronts chew up that fast?
Thanks

Originally Posted by jconnolly1119

Average lifespan of a High-performance tire, and driving an SRT8 the way DCX designed the car to be driven (lead-foot) is probably right around where you're at. A few guys have had to replace as early as 8K and some have made it to 15K, but unfortunately, tire expense is something you'll have to get used to if you really "drive" your car------and this is true for ANY performance car.........

Pulsating????Go back to your dealership, because you have an issue that needs to be addressed. Grooving......nothing you can do till DCX(brembo) comes up with a permanent fix, bit it sounds like you've got another issue altogether.....

BTW: Warranty on the Brembo rig is 12M 12K

[SRT**8]

I am getting new front rotors at 10K miles (along with the new TSB pads, which i am waiting delivery on). I need the new rotors - grinding to a halt at this point. My tread life seems ok - seems very odd the fronts would wear that much faster. do you have the f-1 or the RSAs? I have thought also that some of the talk regarding "stronger" engine at 5k-8k miles is partly due to more worn tires, causing easier tire spin.

my dealership has mentioned that people are chewing up tires on these cars. I think i can get to 20-25K on the tires but i won't make another winter with these tires and should really have snows anyway - i was lucky we had a warm winter. also, the winter months result in much less aggressive driving - also saving the tires some.