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Old 09-04-2007, 08:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Supercharger with tuning now available?

Has anyone looked into doing a superchager now that they will have tuning available for our cars? The tuning with eventually allow for larger injectors and such which will help to hold these cars together. Has anyone looked into it? I know SCT is currently testing these as one of my buddys is a beta tester for their programmer too. I have to believe that we can't be far from "safely" supercharging these cars no?
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I definitely am...

Predator works with companies like Procharger and develops tuning specific to their combos on different platforms. I have heard from a very reliable source that this is coming for our cars in the near future

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I would wait at least one year from when the tunning does come out. Take a good look and see how things are going with the tunning and the set up you like. Let others be the test and tune....unless you have unlimited funds and don't care about dropping a piston in the pan.
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Has anyone looked into doing a superchager now that they will have tuning available for our cars? The tuning with eventually allow for larger injectors and such which will help to hold these cars together. Has anyone looked into it? I know SCT is currently testing these as one of my buddys is a beta tester for their programmer too. I have to believe that we can't be far from "safely" supercharging these cars no?
this stuff is not even worth discussing until someone actually releases a tuner. of course there is countless people awaiting a release of a tuner for the purpose of FI. but there isnt one out yet. so why even worry about it for the time being
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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True- But I have been reading on many sites that most of the supercharger manufacturers are starting to put togther kits for our cars including Kenne Bell and Procharger. Thought it might be interesting to discuss as I know some of you out there have very deep pockets like Moose mentioned. I would love to have around 500 to 550 rwhp at my dispense at all times
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I don't think we'll see any complete kits until after the first of the year. ProCharger was supposed to have one out earlier this year but they currently only have a Tuner Kit available (no injectors/programming). I hear there is at least one supercharger manufacturer working with DiabloSport though



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I would wait at least one year from when the tunning does come out. Take a good look and see how things are going with the tunning and the set up you like. Let others be the test and tune....unless you have unlimited funds and don't care about dropping a piston in the pan.
There is a lot of FI expertise at Diablo right now, one person I know personally has been a pioneer in this area for years on the LSX platform…I’ve also been running blowers on EFI high compression cars for 13 years.

With the low levels of boost we are looking at (6-8 pounds) and the ability to scale injectors, part throttle fuel/spark, WOT fuel/spark, you’ll have no problem with the SRT8 living on boost. (6#s would be cake with A2A intercooling)

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I love the simplicity of prochargers and their A2A intercoolers/self contained head units. An 8 rib D1SC kit with 3 core intercooler would support 750RWHP on our cars easily (if running forged internals) and would barely be working at 500RWHP)

I think the KB kits would be awesome as well especially the area under the curve and tabletop torque they produce.

Anyways, I have full faith that Diablo will setup a very safe tune for these cars and they’ll make awesome power. SCT will also put out a good tune I am sure but I am confident in Diablo.
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I'm not ready to jump on the FI wagon yet. Will wait until FI sellers and program sellers have collaborated to the point that everything works.

However, adding the power means taking a good hard look at the powertrain downstream...like what's gonna happen to the halfshafts and diff? I'm thinking you will be able to get by for a while but HP addiction will eventually break one, or all, of those components.

So be ready to spend a bit more to have an integrated package!
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I'm not ready to jump on the FI wagon yet. Will wait until FI sellers and program sellers have collaborated to the point that everything works.

However, adding the power means taking a good hard look at the powertrain downstream...like what's gonna happen to the halfshafts and diff? I'm thinking you will be able to get by for a while but HP addiction will eventually break one, or all, of those components.

So be ready to spend a bit more to have an integrated package!
Street tires and stock converter should be ok but on DRs and a sticky track watch out haha
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A Kenne Bell at 6-7psi would be significantly quicker than a centrifugal at the same boost level, especially given the vehicle weight + auto trans.

Shoot, even a decent M112 Eaton would make tons of TQ/HP to 6000rpm.

Positive displacement blowers are excellent for relatively heavy vehicles.

Don't get me wrong... love the high-winding centrifugals (had a 615rwhp Mustang in the mid-'90s that went 10s in 100% street-legal trim, back when 10s was fast), but to take real advantage of that type of blower in this car, you'd want to lower compression and run lots more boost, IMHO.

If these motors are as strong as advertised (and I haven't done enough research to know), then they should easily handle a little boost with proper tuning.
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