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Old 03-06-2007, 04:06 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Check out the difference in width.
Proxes 4 275/45R20: 9.9"
Invo 255/45R20: 10.12"

Image how wide the 275s are. I think we can get a rough estimate from the Invo 275/45R18: 10.94"

Edit: I fixed some typos.
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Check out the difference in width.
Proxes 4 275/45R20: 9.9"
Invo 275/45R20: 10.19"

Image how wide the 275s are. I think we can get a rough estimate from the Invo 275/45R18: 10.94"

Sooo Kewel.
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Check out the difference in width.
Proxes 4 275/45R20: 9.9"
Invo 255/45R20: 10.12"

Image how wide the 275s are. I think we can get a rough estimate from the Invo 275/45R18: 10.94"

Edit: I fixed some typos.
Nice job noticing that. (Thanks for the typo fix - I was confused and going to ask, but when I clicked "reply" your fix popped up).

I think these could be the real deal - at least as far as currently (or shortly) available product goes.
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Well I think I'll wait on these as well! I was fixing to go with the Toyo Proxies 4 but JMatt you got me thinking on these now.

VVV90 I think I can wait another 30 days also! This might be the greatest tire since Sliced Bread!
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Do you have to do anything to fit the 275's on the back or do they "just work" ?

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Do you have to do anything to fit the 275's on the back or do they "just work" ?

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275 is the widest that can officially fit on a 9" rim. That is according to the manufacturer's websites for tires that come in 275 20s.
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Proxes 4 has a treadwear rating of 300
Toyo T1R has a rating of 280
Nitto INVO has a rating of 260

Remember 1) lower is typically better - if stickiness is your goal
2) Some people suggest you can't compare unless it's the same manufacturer. Nitto is a division of Toyo.
Lower treadwear rating = good stickiness for track / traction. But not good for longevity - yes/no? As in, if run exactly the same way, the Proxes 4 would last longer than the Nitto invo - right? Just making sure I got my head straight. Thx.
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Lower treadwear rating = good stickiness for track / traction. But not good for longevity - yes/no? As in, if run exactly the same way, the Proxes 4 would last longer than the Nitto invo - right? Just making sure I got my head straight. Thx.
In theory, you are exactly correct.

One difference is the INVO is assymetrical and you can rotate the tires from left to right. That will help even the treadwear and provide more life as compared to tires that cannot be rotated side to side. Because most of us use staggered fitments (i.e. 245's on the front, 275's on the rear) we can't rotate front to back, so we wear out the backs prety quickly for some unknown reason.

I also noted when someone reviewed the Proxes "275" they weren't actually any wider than the Goodyear F-1 "255". The Nitto INVO in contrast, appears to be a full inch wider than the Goodyear or the Proxes.

Hopefully I can get the Nitto INVO on my car soon and take some pictures so everyone can see their real life application. I'll also take them to the strip and see what they can do. As you know - I'll report back.
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is there any more info on sizes...or are they really as limited as it appears on nitto's site? i wouldn't mind trying them but i need 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 and don't see anything close.
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is there any more info on sizes...or are they really as limited as it appears on nitto's site? i wouldn't mind trying them but i need 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 and don't see anything close.
I can't even find a place online that sells them. Their dealer search works well so you might want to just call the nearest one.
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