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Old 11-02-2007, 06:01 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:37 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Urgent- KWs and Suspension adjustment

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its been several months since I changed out the shocks to KWs at a suspension shop. Today, I took the car into the dealership for applying the right drift correction to the car and was informed that they would need to purchase two control arms @ $350 each to enable this to happen and that the arms currently in place on my 2006 AWD would not allow them to adjust the suspension. I just want to run this by members here as to what they think about this .. Are they BSing me or is this another "fact" that needs to come out among the KW enthusiasts?

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Well,
its been several months since I changed out the shocks to KWs at a suspension shop. Today, I took the car into the dealership for applying the right drift correction to the car and was informed that they would need to purchase two control arms @ $350 each to enable this to happen and that the arms currently in place on my 2006 AWD would not allow them to adjust the suspension. I just want to run this by members here as to what they think about this .. Are they BSing me or is this another "fact" that needs to come out among the KW enthusiasts?

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It's apples and oranges, jaydee - The control arms are totally separate from and unaffected by (directly speaking) the shocks and springs.

Check out the various schematics showing the LX suspension components on this Pedders Suspension site: Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger, Dodge Magnum

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Old 04-23-2008, 09:01 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Well,
its been several months since I changed out the shocks to KWs at a suspension shop. Today, I took the car into the dealership for applying the right drift correction to the car and was informed that they would need to purchase two control arms @ $350 each to enable this to happen and that the arms currently in place on my 2006 AWD would not allow them to adjust the suspension. I just want to run this by members here as to what they think about this .. Are they BSing me or is this another "fact" that needs to come out among the KW enthusiasts?

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Upper control arms? There are also lower control arms.

Since your car is lowered it is likely your camber is too negative and out of spec. But from what I know, camber does not have a big effect on the chronic Chrysler right lead/pull problem.
Caster is the most likely fix, and/or cradle adjustment, for the right lead problem.

I also don't see why the dealer would replace your stock upper controls with stock upper control arms. This will not fix your negative camber. You would have to buy an aftermarket upper control arm with additional camber adjustment, such as Pedders or SPC Performance.

To fix the right lead/pull, the dealer usually follows these steps in order.
1) Cross rotate tires (but not possible with aftermarket directional tires)
2) Alignment
3) Cradle adjustment

Here is the latest TSB for the right lead.
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Thanks Joey, Meister

Thanks Guys. What little I gleaned form a phone conversation (during work) with my dealer's body shop guy was that they would order the required parts from SPC. I am assuming that it is a camber problem that they are seeking to fix. Today, I will talk to them armed with the info you have provided.

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Thanks Guys. What little I gleaned form a phone conversation (during work) with my dealer's body shop guy was that they would order the required parts from SPC. I am assuming that it is a camber problem that they are seeking to fix. Today, I will talk to them armed with the info you have provided.

Thanks!

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Another fly in the ointment is you have AWD.
I just checked the SPC Performance website and the camber adjustable control arms say "Not for AWD vehicles". And they are sold for $212, not $350.
Either way, I think your dealer is on the wrong track trying to fix your right lead problem.
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I believe that Pedders is actively working on a camber-correcting solution for the AWD platform, Jay. Just how much impact that can have on the right-pull problem that's usually addressed via the front cradle I can't say.

Suggest you drop Mike White, Pedder's West Coast Tech Rep, a line here: mike.white@PeddersUsa.com

Tell Mike that I sent you, and let him know what your situation is. Hope for good news.

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I believe that Pedders is actively working on a camber-correcting solution for the AWD platform, Jay. Just hom much impact that can have on the right-pull problem that's usually addressed via the front cradle I can't say.

Suggest you drop Mike East, Pedder's West Coast Tech Rep, a line here: mike.white@PeddersUsa.com

Tell Mike that I sent you, and let him know what your situation is. Hope for good news.
Rob= on the east coast, has spearheaded the AWD suspension stuff. He is in Mass. some of our bushes already work on AWD, but there are quite a few that do not. Pedders is aggressively working on a full system for AWD. There are a number of bushes that are quite different. However, as far as I know, our upper control arm bushes for adjustabiltiy do work for the AWD. i can find out for sure if needed

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Correct Mike,
The EP6570 Camber/Caster adjustable bushes do work in the both the RWD and the AWD.

The only bushings that do not work are for the Lower control arm on the AWD. There are two bushings in this that are totally different then the RWD control arm and radius arm bushing.
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If you're going to get 22" I think it's going to affect the ride no what what you do except air suspension.
HEMI4ME is running Vuiper style 22s and 100% Pedders. Vased on the reaction hhe gets whenever he does a demo drive with a fellow LX owner you can have 22s and a great ride too.
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