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Old 01-17-2006, 10:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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(Copied from my recent post in another thread, but pertinent here as well)

Just back from one of life's finer weekends.

Let me tell you, the tremendous driveability improvement that the Jet Chip provides the LX Hemi is nowhere more apparent than when flogging it in the tight twisties. Motor and transmission were instantly responsive to the demands of repeated quick cycles of WOT to ABS chatter to WOT....

The two SRT8s I was running with in the mountains above San Diego were totally outclassed by the combination of the instant responsiveness of my drivetrain and the superior suspension that the KW/Hotchkis combo provides my sweet C.

There was one clear winner after 45 spirited minutes of WOT flogging - Jet Chip and the KW V2/Hotchkis anti-sway killer suspension combo.

uh...
that's an interesting point of view...
maybe next time I'll let you lead and I fill your backside with my hood and windshield...
Oh, Dan...
care to chime in on this one?
Remember its always nice to have a leader to follow...
My buddy always - The Meister man...

oh, and his ride performed admirably...
I will say that...

Remember you can be my wingman anytime...
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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...maybe next time I'll let you lead and I fill your backside with my hood and windshield... ...
Catch me if you can, buddy.

Especially in the super-tight twisties.
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That's correct.
Now I know your Crazy, LOL.

I should have mine intsalled soon.
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uh...
that's an interesting point of view...
maybe next time I'll let you lead and I fill your backside with my hood and windshield...
Oh, Dan...
care to chime in on this one?
Remember its always nice to have a leader to follow...
My buddy always - The Meister man...

oh, and his ride performed admirably...
I will say that...

Remember you can be my wingman anytime...

LMFAO, That was funny!!!!
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...My buddy always - The Meister man...

oh, and his ride performed admirably...
I will say that...

Remember you can be my wingman anytime...
As you know, Chris, I'd be honored. You're a superb LX pilot.

'Just need to get rid of some performance flaws in your sweet ride that brute horsepower can't mask and are cramping your style.

Especially in the super-tight twisties.
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Now I know your Crazy, LOL.

I should have mine installed soon.
Who, me?

Great, fatchance. I look forward to your demo thrill ride with great...anticipation.
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As you know, Chris, I'd be honored. You're a superb LX pilot.

'Just need to get rid of some performance flaws in your sweet ride that brute horsepower can't mask and are cramping your style.

Especially in the super-tight twisties.
I am thinking the same thing...
and there is someone here is SD who just added the same mods you did...
and I'm asking kindly for a ride...
as we all know...
there is now way in god's name he will let me drive his car...
But you never know...
I'll settle for a ride for starters...

What fry's me is that someone PM'ed about a month ago on this stuff who sells it in SD and I cannot for the life of me remember his name or NIC...
as I was doing the clean out thing and deleted the wrong message...
oh well...
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Old 01-18-2006, 01:47 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Just returned Monday 2:30 am from a PHENOMENAL road trip to SD. Had plenty of seat time with Meister and CButler. I enjoyed EVERY minute of it including the "Quality Time" with our CHP friend on I-8!

First off: Props to Meister. That has to be the fastest, most dialed in, 5.7 on the road! That being said, his recent post of:

"The two SRT8s I was running with in the mountains above San Diego were totally outclassed by the combination of the instant responsiveness of my drivetrain and the superior suspension that the KW/Hotchkis combo provides my sweet C.

There was one clear winner after 45 spirited minutes of WOT flogging - Jet Chip and the KW V2/Hotchkis anti-sway killer suspension combo."

Let me say, well, not exactly. Not once did Meister (or anyone else) pass, or "Outclass" me, in 3 days.

Did Meister do the 5.7 proud and hang with the big boys? Hell yeah!

Did his numerous mods eliminate most or all of the 5.7's shortcomings? Hell yeah!

Did he surprise me with how well his car could hang with my 6.1 from 90 mph+? Hell yeah! (til 128 at least) He did not run side by side with me, but I didn't walk away from him as fast as I thought I might. Of course with the speed limiter he was unable to run with the big boys at warp speed. (we kept it under 170 all weekend, I swear)

On our Friday night and Saturday morning "Spirited Drives" he was VERY Impressive! Between his unquestionable Fighter Pilot Skills, and quite capable 300C he was ever present throgh the twisties.

On our Friday night adventure he ran up my ass (under braking) several times, making me wish he had the Brembo's and glad he didn't kiss me there!

On Saturday during the first half of our Mountain Run, he held his own, but wasn't "Waxing My Tail". Eventually I moved back and hung more with our two other friends, and watched Meister and Chris "Check Out". A good time was definitely had by all!

On Sunday we hit the drag strip at CA Speedway, and had some fun with the GSM boys. My 6.1 ran low 13's all day. I believe Meister ran low to mid 14's all day. The silver SRT-8 with 100 shot of Nitrous beat my NA SRT-8 by about 1/2 second in a head to head run. His mid 12's to my low 13's. The GSM Supercharged 300C SRT-8 beat me by a little more than 1 second. His 11.99 to my 13.04.

The ultimate "Fun Day" to me would be to all register together for the Jim Russell "Performance Driving Clinic" at Sears Point Raceway. 20 or so drivers can run their own cars on the 12 turn road course with passing allowed!

Laguna Seca would be another Ideal track, but I haven't seen any option to run our cars at that track.

And by the way. I ran Sears Point on 9/7/05 and sent 15 "Sports Car" drivers home wondering WTF just happened to them. So I doubt SERIOUSLY that even a heavily modded 5.7 will "Outclass" me there either!


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...I doubt SERIOUSLY that even a heavily modded 5.7 will "Outclass" me there either!...
Easy, my friend. That's not the issue.

It's best to not take your friend's words out of context. It was the tightest, twistiest, sections that I've referred to. The more the race is a drag race, the more it tilts to the favor of unmodded 6.1Ls. But the more the race is an autocross, the more it tilts to a totally responsive, superbly suspended, 5.7L.

The tighter the twisties got the more the inherent throttle & tranny lag that only goes away with chips and GSM mods, coupled with a less capable suspension, turned the tables in favor of the perfectly performing and better suspended 5.7L vs. the laggy, in both engine and transmission response, less sure-footed, but more powerful, 6.1L.

My car (not ME, but my car) owned the super-tight twisties. Sorry you weren't in position to observe it. By the the time we were in the really tight stuff you were several minutes back, and not privvy to seeing the show.

I look forward to our next outings. I'll be highly pleased to see firsthand the performance gains you realize from your new mods. And the Hotchkis/KW combo is absolutely must mod for both you and Chris, IMO.
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