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Old 06-23-2009, 09:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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are you doing the install? or is Zack? if its Zack then no worries on leaks... YOU DONT NEED $500 in gauge to tell a leak! thats horse****.
so im curious if you are not running ride height sensors, you are going to drop it.... then raise it.... so how are you going to know when you raise it where the height is?

Example: parked at a store (pancaked)... get into the car and raise the car to drive off. how do you know where to stop the air-up switch?
Do you have to get out every time and measure the fender to ground height?

Now im confused....

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okay, I just wanted to be lower then stock with the 22". It seems other people(300 c forum z) think you have to have gauges or it the end of the world. lol. Gauges only seem to come in handy when you have a leak in the bag. Which Zack said usually never happens. I do not have an ride height sensors yet. I want to install the kit, then maybe add it later. Is there any other options to deal with leaks if it happened?

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Old 06-24-2009, 01:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
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are you doing the install? or is Zack? if its Zack then no worries on leaks... YOU DONT NEED $500 in gauge to tell a leak! thats horse****.
so im curious if you are not running ride height sensors, you are going to drop it.... then raise it.... so how are you going to know when you raise it where the height is?

Example: parked at a store (pancaked)... get into the car and raise the car to drive off. how do you know where to stop the air-up switch?
Do you have to get out every time and measure the fender to ground height?

Now im confused....
Me and my friend are doing the install at his shop. I sure I can do the job. Ive changed several suspension parts in the past on my hondas( springs, coilovers, struts, camber kits, ect...) I would go all the way up, and tap back down get close to the tire then drive off.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
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hmmmm. the install isnt that bad.

So basically you would have to get out of your car to see if you are too close to the tire? or too far away? not to mention the chance that you may put too much air in the bags? Sorry Customaudioman. but im not helping you much here. ill let the others comment. For me it was easy to not use gauges if I didnt want to because the touchpad has 3 settings on it. 1 cruising (real low) 2 normal driving height, 3 all the way up.... last button is all deflated...

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Me and my friend are doing the install at his shop. I sure I can do the job. Ive changed several suspension parts in the past on my hondas( springs, coilovers, struts, camber kits, ect...) I would go all the way up, and tap back down get close to the tire then drive off.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:02 AM   #14 (permalink)
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This is why you should run gauges to know how high or low you car is.. You gont have to get the $400 digital gauge you can get the ones I have. They cost me $90 for all 3 of mine $20 for the single needle (but you dont need that one) and $35 x2 for the dual needle and then you can buy the pillar gauge pod like I have in my acura. So it will only cost you $70 for the 2 dual needle gauges. Heres a link for tho ones I have there the easystreet ones
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Im just trying to help you out because mine NEVER leaked until this year.. I cant even leave it sitting up in my driveway for a few hours without it leaking.. So I have to go over the whole airride asap...
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I run gauges in my 300 which is bagged with the setup in my sig.


Gauges are vital for a few reasons.

1.) sometimes your car won't drop evenly when you hit the dump valve. Knowing what psi is in each corner is essential for leveling the car off and for setting alignment at a lower height on air (because you know your alignment will be true @ X psi.)

2.) they will tell you if you have a leak in your system which can and I guarantee WILL occur.

3.) they allow you to ride low, high or somewhere in between. Without gauges you basically get 2 heights that you are 100% sure of.... laid out and full lock.


Kick out the coin and go digital. Running an assload of 1/8" airline around your car SUCKS and causes the potential for more leaks should a line snap or something.


Mikeydubs is right on the spot... next time don't disregard helpful information so fast.
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hmmmm. the install isnt that bad.

So basically you would have to get out of your car to see if you are too close to the tire? or too far away? not to mention the chance that you may put too much air in the bags? Sorry Customaudioman. but im not helping you much here. ill let the others comment. For me it was easy to not use gauges if I didnt want to because the touchpad has 3 settings on it. 1 cruising (real low) 2 normal driving height, 3 all the way up.... last button is all deflated...

too much air isn't really a problem, uas bags are rates to 200 psi and the 480's that ship with the switch cut off @ or below 200.

This guy would basically have to air it up to full lock, and then drop it down to the height he thinks is close to the tire.
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question, why do you think gauges are a waste? Cause I have a lot of people telling me that you have to have them. But zack told me they are not really need for our cars. I listen to a pro vs those other guys.
Gauges are a waste for him because he has AUTO ride height controlers. Why would he need to worry about it? Definitely listen to the pros, the other 20 people who own a UAS setup on the forums that have gauges know nothing.

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It seems other people(300 c forum z) think you have to have gauges or it the end of the world. lol. Gauges only seem to come in handy when you have a leak in the bag. Which Zack said usually never happens. I do not have an ride height sensors yet. I want to install the kit, then maybe add it later. Is there any other options to deal with leaks if it happened?
That's HILARIOUS that anyone would think you'd need a gauge!!! Especially when every single person on the forums who's recommended getting a gauge has actually OWNED air ride. Crazy, people these days... they're out of their minds... definitely deserving of an "lol".

Did you really think posting here would get a different response? The only reason Dove has posted he didn't need one is because his car sets his bags at an auto height with the touch of a button. You won't even have that... I'm beyond curious as to why this post would even pop up after you've received the exact same response from all the air ride users on the forums. Get a gauge...

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Me and my friend are doing the install at his shop. I sure I can do the job. Ive changed several suspension parts in the past on my hondas( springs, coilovers, struts, camber kits, ect...) I would go all the way up, and tap back down get close to the tire then drive off.
That's perfect. Sounds easy, just pump your car all the way up, touch each bag down (since they don't all always drop at the same rate when you hit the "all down" switch), and just simply get out and do a walk around to check each corner to make sure they're dropped evenly. Simply repeat this process 3 or 4 times to get them where you want and you're all set! Sounds easy to me, just give yourself an extra 15 or 20 minutes to get your fender sittin' just right on the tire, and you're on your way.

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hmmmm. the install isnt that bad.

So basically you would have to get out of your car to see if you are too close to the tire? or too far away? not to mention the chance that you may put too much air in the bags? Sorry Customaudioman. but im not helping you much here. ill let the others comment. For me it was easy to not use gauges if I didnt want to because the touchpad has 3 settings on it. 1 cruising (real low) 2 normal driving height, 3 all the way up.... last button is all deflated...
Just quoting to confirm that even the one person who's posted on either forum agreeing at all that you don't need a gauge has an auto ride height controler. Meaning there's no need for one (but would be convenient for leaks/problem shooting still).

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I run gauges in my 300 which is bagged with the setup in my sig.


Gauges are vital for a few reasons.

1.) sometimes your car won't drop evenly when you hit the dump valve. Knowing what psi is in each corner is essential for leveling the car off and for setting alignment at a lower height on air (because you know your alignment will be true @ X psi.)

2.) they will tell you if you have a leak in your system which can and I guarantee WILL occur.

3.) they allow you to ride low, high or somewhere in between. Without gauges you basically get 2 heights that you are 100% sure of.... laid out and full lock.


Kick out the coin and go digital. Running an assload of 1/8" airline around your car SUCKS and causes the potential for more leaks should a line snap or something.


Mikeydubs is right on the spot... next time don't disregard helpful information so fast.
Thanks for posting Grounded, but the outcome is always the same, we know nothing... he knows everything (although this is his first car on air).

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I just do not understand why Zach would tell me I do not really need one. when all you guys say I have to have one. It be nice if he could chime in on this matter
I respect all the info you guys are giving me, just dont understand why he tells me that I do not need the gauge. It not like I did not have the money to buy the gauge when ordering the kit and koni's
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I run gauges in my 300 which is bagged with the setup in my sig.


Gauges are vital for a few reasons.

1.) sometimes your car won't drop evenly when you hit the dump valve. Knowing what psi is in each corner is essential for leveling the car off and for setting alignment at a lower height on air (because you know your alignment will be true @ X psi.)

2.) they will tell you if you have a leak in your system which can and I guarantee WILL occur.

3.) they allow you to ride low, high or somewhere in between. Without gauges you basically get 2 heights that you are 100% sure of.... laid out and full lock.


Kick out the coin and go digital. Running an assload of 1/8" airline around your car SUCKS and causes the potential for more leaks should a line snap or something.


Mikeydubs is right on the spot... next time don't disregard helpful information so fast.

Thanx GROUNDED!!!! and thats where I seen that pic of the air gauge where the clock was SICKKKKKKK...... Nice and clean!!!!
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