Questions about TSBs

[HaTaX]

On the relesed date, are there any that were released in 04 that aren't listed? The bottom two TSBs came out today? On a saturday? =)

This is really helpfull, it'd be nice if we just keep this thread for adding more TSB info to it, or like the tranmission shudder fix that has no TSB yet, but someone had parts listing for what was replaced in his 300C and it fixed the 55-58mph shudder.

[MrHappy]

Is there a way to get specifics on some of those? (ie - 23-007-05a)

[ResumeSpeed]

Originally Posted by HaTaX

On the relesed date, are there any that were released in 04 that aren't listed? The bottom two TSBs came out today? On a saturday? =)

Yes, released today, Saturday...

I have updated the list to include ALL TSB's issued for the LX, model years 2005 and 2006, and also have added all Recalls, Customer Satisfaction Notices (CSN) and Rapid Response Transmittals.

[ResumeSpeed]

Originally Posted by MrHappy

Is there a way to get specifics on some of those? (ie - 23-007-05a)

23-007-05a involves installing isolating foam between the rear shelf trim and the body. PM me your email addy and I will send you the 2-page PDF w/diagram.

[Dixietwister]

Thanks for the Post. I'm sure it will help a lot of us.

>>>>>>>>>>Dixie

[First300COwner]

Well done!!!

[joey]

Originally Posted by ResumeSpeed

23-007-05a involves installing isolating foam between the rear shelf trim and the body. PM me your email addy and I will send you the 2-page PDF w/diagram.

How are you getting the full TSB info? Do you work for Chrysler, or paying for the TSB's? I have done a lot of googling for the complete/detailed TSB info but only found sites that would sell them. No free-bees.

Also, I would like to see the new alignment specs for this TSB.
03/12/05 …. 0506 …. #02-002-05 …. Right Lead/Revised Alignment Specifications

The original TSB spec's on March 25, 2004 have been widely published.
Many folks are still having the Right lead problem. These new specs might be able to fix their problem.

[lgret13]

Originally Posted by joey

How are you getting the full TSB info? Do you work for Chrysler, or paying for the TSB's? I have done a lot of googling for the complete/detailed TSB info but only found sites that would sell them. No free-bees.

Also, I would like to see the new alignment specs for this TSB.
03/12/05 …. 0506 …. #02-002-05 …. Right Lead/Revised Alignment Specifications

The original TSB spec's on March 25, 2004 have been widely published.
Many folks are still having the Right lead problem. These new specs might be able to fix their problem.

If you can, please post this TSB i don't necessarily have right pull but overly crown sensitive vehicle with front tire feathering paticulary on the edge, dealer says the car was within spec, this was in Feb. Thank you

[joey]

Originally Posted by ResumeSpeed

I have some good contacts at DCX so do not have to pay for any bulletins.

Per the alignment specs, kind of hard to post them here as they are in a large multi-column chart - unless HTML can be used in posts (?). The TSB is somewhat involved and is 4-pages long, how were the old ones formatted/displayed?

Here is how the TSB was posted by MightyMax. Not sure if this copied from the TSB, or was modified.
Vehicle leads to the right.... The TSB
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NUMBER: 02-003-04
DATE: May 25, 2004


SUBJECT:
Right Lead

OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves adjusting the alignment to revised specifications.

MODELS:
2005 (LX) 300/Magnum

NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles built prior to April 25, 2004 (MDH 0425XX).

SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The vehicle operator states the vehicle leads to the right.

DIAGNOSIS:
Drive the car on a FLAT road. If the car tracks straight, the vehicle operator is experiencing crown sensitivity. If the vehicle tracks to the right, perform the Repair Procedure. Crown sensitivity can not be eliminated in all the cases. Vehicles built on or after April 25, 2004 already have the alignment biased and no further action should be required or taken by the dealer other than verifying the vehicle is set at the revised specifications listed in this bulletin.

NOTE: Before evaluating the vehicle, it is important to check the following:
1. Tire pressure - Adjust tire pressure (if necessary) in all four wheels to the pressure stated on the door placard.
2. Tire size & type - Verify that all four tires are the same size and type.

NOTE: When evaluating the vehicle, always drive the same road in both directions to get a feel for the effect of road crown & cross wind.

SPECIAL TOOLS/EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
NPN Alignment Equipment

REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Use the procedures outlined on TechCONNECT to set the wheel alignment to the specifications below.



NUMBER: 02-003-04
GROUP: Suspension
DATE: May 25, 2004

NOTE: When aligning the front end to induce right caster bias (the vehicle will tend to track toward the side with the least positive caster), target the cross caster to be -0.8 degree and no more than -1.3 degrees. That means you will have more caster on the right than on the left. Cross camber should be set in at +0.2 - +0.3 degree. That means you will have more camber on the left than on the right. Utilize the cradle shift method PRIOR to using the caster/camber adjustment bolt kit, p/n 05134117AA. The adjustment bolts only provide about 0.2 - 0.3 degree change and should only be used as a last resort. When shifting the cradle, the passenger side of the cradle will move forward in car and the driver's side will move rearward in car.

NOTE: After the cradle has been shifted, torque all 4 cradle bolts to 175Nm (130 ft. lbs.).

CAUTION: If an adjustment bolt is to be installed do not allow the bolt head to turn during disassembly or assembly, the cradle tension link joint or the lower control arm bushing inner metal sleeve will be destroyed and require replacement. THE NUT MUST BE UNTORQUED AND REMOVED, BEFORE THE BOLT. Once the nut is removed the bolt can be slid out.

REVISED ALIGNMENT SPECIFICATIONS

FRONT WHEEL ALIGNMENT PREFERRED SETTING ACCEPTABLE RANGE
CAMBER - LEFT -0.1° -0.60° to +0.40°
CAMBER - RIGHT -0.20° -0.70° to +0.30°
Cross-Camber (Maximum side-to-side difference) 0.20° -0.30 to +0.60°
CASTER - LEFT +10.30° +9.00° to +12.10°
CASTER - RIGHT +11.10° +9.00° to +12.10°
Cross-Caster (Maximum side-to-side difference) -0.80° -1.30 to -0.50°
INDIVIDUAL TOE 0.10° -0.05° to +0.15°
TOTAL TOE** +0.20° 0.00° to +0.40°
Maximum side-to-side difference 0.00° 0.06°
RIDE HEIGHT - INDIVIDUAL 328mm (12 15/16 in.) 318 to 338mm (12 1/2 to 13 3/8 in.)
CROSS RIDE HEIGHT 0 -12 to +12mm (1/2 in.)

REAR WHEEL ALIGNMENT PREFERRED SETTING ACCEPTABLE RANGE

CAMBER* -0.75° -1.25° to -0.25°
Cross-Camber (Maximum side-to-side difference) 0.00° -0.50 to 0.50°
INDIVIDUAL TOE 0.10° -0.05° to +0.25°


02-003-04 -2-
FRONT WHEEL ALIGNMENT PREFERRED SETTING ACCEPTABLE RANGE
THRUST ANGLE 0.0° -0.50° to +0.50°
RIDE HEIGHT - INDIVIDUAL 296mm (11 5/8 in.) 286 to 306mm (11 1/4 to 12 in.)
CROSS RIDE HEIGHT 0 -12 to +12mm (1/2 in.)

Notes:
Vehicle height and suspension alignment values reflect after vehicle spring settling values.
* For reference only. These are non-adjustable angles.
** TOTAL TOE is the sum of both left and right wheel toe settings. TOTAL TOE must be equally
split between each front wheel to ensure the steering wheel is centered after setting toe. Positive
toe is toe-in and negative toe is toe-out


POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.


TIME ALLOWANCE:
Labor Operation No: Description Amount
02-00-02-90 Set Front and Rear Toe / Center Steering Wheel 0.7 Hrs.
02-00-01-91 Alignment Using Cradle Adjustment and Set
Front and Rear Toe / Center Steering Wheel
1.0 Hrs.


FAILURE CODE:
LM Leads Right

[joey]

Here is the alignment specs from my previous post correctly formated for easier reading.
When copied into the thread, the info shifts to the left.

REVISED ALIGNMENT SPECIFICATIONS
FRONT WHEEL ALIGNMENT - PREFERRED SETTING - ACCEPTABLE RANGE
CAMBER - LEFT__________________ -0.1°_______ -0.60° to +0.40°
CAMBER - RIGHT________________ -0.20°_______ -0.70° to +0.30°
Cross-Camber___________________ 0.20°_______ -0.30 to +0.60°
CASTER - LEFT________________ +10.30°_______ +9.00° to +12.10°
CASTER - RIGHT_______________ +11.10°_______ +9.00° to +12.10°
Cross-Caster___________________ -0.80°_______ -1.30 to -0.50°
INDIVIDUAL TOE_________________ 0.10°________ -0.05° to +0.15°
TOTAL TOE**__________________ +0.20°________ 0.00° to +0.40°