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My 300c CRD refuses to start - I turn the ignition on, wait for the seat to adjust and for the pre-heat light to go out, then turn the key to the start position and all I get is a click, which I assume is the starter solenoid working, but the starter motor does not engage and the engine does not turn over. Admittedly the car is not used regularly but I don't think it should be the battery as I use a 'smart' charger to maintain it. EVIC reads about 12 volts. I have also tried connecting a known good battery with jump leads and still the same problem. Even tried connecting to another car; started the engine on other car (EVIC then shows 14+ volts) and with an assistant standing by to disconnect jump leads I tried to start the 'C' - still nothing more than a click from the solenoid. As far as I can recall the car makes all the usual noises when turning ignition on (fuel pump etc) and I don't remember any warning lights.

Makes me think it is either the starter motor which may have packed up, or perhaps some more sinister electrical or immobiliser fault. Does anybody have any thoughts or suggestions as to what (or how) to check next? I recall reading somewhere on here about crank sensors, TPMS connections and chafed wiring on A/C pipes causing starting problems - did they produce similar symptoms? If so what should I check &/or where should I inspect the wiring.

Would appreciate any thoughts, ideas or comments.

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If its defo the solenoid clicking and not a relay I would say its more likely to be the starter motor than the immobiliser (you could try tapping it with a hammer from underneath). If it were the crank sensor it would turn over but not start. If it is the immobiliser you can try disconnecting the front tpms sensors (inside the wheel arch liner attached to the front bumper) and it may start.
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This is probably not the problem but worth checking whilst underneath http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB_3...nse_09052a.pdf
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Relay 9 in the front fuse box is the one that has to energise to send 12V to the starter solenoid.
If you see the drawing attached I have marked in "Blue" the contacts that have to make to send the 12V to the solenoid.
If you turn the ignition to "Run" (All dashboard lights on), unplug relay 9 and apply a short acroos the 2 pins I've marked in Blue this should apply 12V across the solenoid, the solenoid should energise (Fairly Loud Click) and starter should turn. If it doesnt click or turn its either the solenoid or wiring or a bad connection on the heavy duty cable from the battery to the starter motor or the motor itself.
You could do these checks under the car at the starter motor itself but its not easy to get to. If the above doesnt cause starter motor to turn its a good thing insomuch as its a simple starter motor or starter motor wiring problem rather than an electronics or engine logic problem.

By the way there is an insulated lead through connector in the drivers footwell that feeds the Heavy Duty cable through from the inside of the car to the engine compartment and eventually to the starter motor if you have to check the sytem for bad connections.
Most likely a duff starter motor though.

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24 hours after I purchased my car the solenoid exciter wire in the harness between the fuse box and the solenoid broke and all I got was a small click from the relay when trying to start it. Took the dealer 9days to fix it.
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It sounds like a problem with the solenoids on your starter motor. If your able to reach in, try tapping the starter motor with a hammer but not too hard that you damage it and see if it starts? The are some places that do starter motor exchange with warranty, might work out cheaper or you could try ebay or Charltons, they give 101 days guarantee

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If you do determine it's the starter motor try the main dealer. I had to by one for my Jeep GC Hemi and the main dealer only wanted 70 for a new one (Mitsubishi). I don't know if the CRD is Chrysler or Merc.
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The front windscreen wiper motor on ours is Denso, it might be from a Mitsubishi too

Starter motor, it could also be a Bosch?
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I had exactly the same symptoms. My man suspected the starter solenoid, He replaced it & its not done it since !


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Thanks for the tips guys - I have been away on business for the last few days so have not had a chance to follow up on anything yet but will try to investigate further this coming weekend. Just a couple more thoughts/questions however:

- I shall have to 'volunteer' the wife to stick her head under bonnet to determine whether the click is coming from the solenoid or from a relay; I know the relays will be in the fusebox, but whereabouts is the solenoid - is it built into the starter motor itself or is it a separate unit somewhere else within the engine bay?

- if I want to get to the TPMS sensors I have to get past the wheel arch liners which seem to be held in place by strange plastic fittings if I remember correctly; how do I undo or remove them? Do they just pull (or push) out? Am I right in thinking that sometimes they get knackered in the removal process and I would then have to source some replacement fittings so that I could re-fit the wheel arch liners?

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