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Old 12-20-2006, 08:27 AM   #51 (permalink)
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hi,

I'm from Belgium and a proud owner of a 300C Touring as far as I know here in europe the AWD models have 5x115 and the RWD models have 5x114.3

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Old 12-20-2006, 08:42 AM   #52 (permalink)
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hi,

I'm from Belgium and a proud owner of a 300C Touring as far as I know here in europe the AWD models have 5x115 and the RWD models have 5x114.3

greetz mando
Sorry, but you got wrong information. Officially, all LX Chassis 300 models use 5x115 regardless of AWD or RWD. 5x114.3 is an 'optional' bolt pattern used by many for aftermarket rims.
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:20 AM   #53 (permalink)
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that was told by a company that sells a sertain modell with the two options RWD and AWD, sorry if I'm wrong.

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Old 12-21-2006, 09:11 PM   #54 (permalink)
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i would say go for the 114.3's. .013 is such a small difference its 4 human hairs lined up in a row, i can guarntee that if you were to add up all the tolerances both geometrically and dimensionally relating to the bolt pattern and hub it would be well over that .013.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:59 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I have the Tsw Montage with the 5x114.3 bolt pattern. No problems to report. Had them on for 800 miles and no shaking or any other notable problems. Have been over 100 mph as well.
over 4k on these wheels not one drop of shaking and no probs???????and i have gone 118mph with these on!!
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Old 12-22-2006, 03:37 PM   #56 (permalink)
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i would also like to add that the .013" is uniformly distributed around the wheel and where it touches off on the stud.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:09 PM   #57 (permalink)
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So did we come to a real verdict here? I'm in the process of ordering 24" wheels right now with 275/30/24 tires.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:52 PM   #58 (permalink)
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My 4 decades of performance driving lead me to disagree with your claim. The center hub was never engineered to center the wheels. A slight error of even a millimeter there multiplies as it moves out from the hub. The lugs are designed to center the wheel and hold it firmly in position. The wheel must line up perfectly on the lugs. 114.3 mm wheels do not line up on 115 mm lugs.

Hub centering rings are not the right way to solve the problem. Once vibration starts, it almost always gets worse.

Many years ago, I felt the right front wheel and tire vibrate violently then roll down the road ahead of my car as I rapidly descended a hill on a busy 2 lane black top. Soon the right front of my vehicle dipped, throwing my car into the path of a large Semi 18 wheeler. By the grace of God, I hit the opposite shoulder and eased into a ditch - a fraction of a second before the truck barrelled by.

Why did the wheel come off? I had oversized the wheels with mismatched rims and one wheel vibrated loose. No part of the car takes more stress than where the wheels are bolted to the lugs.
My 40+ years of modding cars for show and for go says stick with the proper size, which for our cars is the 115 mm 5 lug pattern,

This is really important if you oversize the wheels, as the size and weight put enormous stress on the hubs, suspension and brakes.

Big wheels look nice but you are driving a 4200 lb. car and safety always has to be a prime concern.
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So did we come to a real verdict here? I'm in the process of ordering 24" wheels right now with 275/30/24 tires.
The consensus and fact/truth is - the correct bolt pattern is 5x115. No one disputes that. The verdict over the 5x114.3 pattern is deemed a secondary option for those that desire a rim that does not come in 5x115. Good Luck.
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I just bought my new rims and Discount Tire wouldn't mount the 114.3's because they are not the correct bolt pattern for the car. They have many cars that come in with some shudder and broken lugs so they made it company policy not to install anything other than what the car bolt pattern calls for. I sent the original ones back and got 115's. Personally, for what I paid for the car, I would wait it out and get what comes on the car.
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