What is the verdict: Bolt Pattern 5x114.3 or 5x115?

[wanna300]

what is a crap shoot?

[joey]

Originally Posted by wanna300

what is a crap shoot?

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danger, risk, peril - a venture undertaken without regard to possible loss or injury; "he saw the rewards but not the risks of crime"; "there was a danger he would do the wrong thing"

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[wanna300]

gotcha..thanks joey.


thanks:
verb (used with object) 1.to express gratitude, appreciation, or acknowledgment to: She thanked them for their hospitality.

[radshop]

keith1stop

Let's build your engine with the tolerances that you recommend and see how long it takes before you have a problem.

Why don't the manufactures split the difference? Because when the wheel comes off, some jack-a** sues and now owns their wheel company.

5x115 is the only correct bolt circle. 5x4.50 would not fit if the lugs holes were drilled tighter.

Radshop

[E55 KEV]

Originally Posted by radshop

keith1stop

Let's build your engine with the tolerances that you recommend and see how long it takes before you have a problem.

Why don't the manufactures split the difference? Because when the wheel comes off, some jack-a** sues and now owns their wheel company.

5x115 is the only correct bolt circle. 5x4.50 would not fit if the lugs holes were drilled tighter.

Radshop

Insane example. Nothing to do with engine building. Moot point. I doubt you know anyone whose wheel come off using 114.3 and not 115?

I can put a 245/55/18 width tire on the OEM rims versus a 225/60/18. That is a 20mm difference. Can you apply your "Let's build your engine with the tolerances that you recommend" theory there?

[onebadsrt8]

If the engine breaks, at least you can pull over. If the wheel comes off, you're in for a ride.

[aki]

The difference may be small between the two bolt patterns, but the 114.3 rims will stress the 115 spaced studs when the lugs are tightened. Sorry to get nerd on ya'll, but the lugs are most likely designed to be generally pre-loaded with only an axial loading (lug tightened) and then whatever the weight of the vehicle is and the resulting bending/shear (the loads when the wheel is touching the ground and the weight of the car is on it).

Through each revolution there is a stress in each stud that the vehicle is designed to. 114.3's on 115's add another component to the stress and add to it. Sure there are safety factors, but you're rolling the dice.

Even though we're talking about such a small amount here, it would be easy to significantly increase the stress in a piece of steel without seeing much deformation.

Sorry for the rambling - end advice...use the bolting pattern that it was designed for or you're looking for trouble. Not immediately though...this would most likely end up in a fatigue failure over several years.

If you have 114.3's on 115's it would probably be good to make a habit out of checking your studs a few times a year by completely removing them and inspecting for fatigue...or just replace them often.

Trust me...you don't want your wheel falling off at highway speeds. I read one police report where a rear wheel flew off...it seems like a wild ride!

[gamova]

i have a set of 3 piece wheels for sale auto couture wheels with a six inch lip back an 3'' lip front. i took them of my srt8 with the big brake so they will fit. the bolt pattern is 5x114.3 +18 rear 5x115+14 trust me they will fit. the form want let me post pic an i cant post any new topic for some reson but it will let me add a reply thats crazy. (edited by admin..... per f/s rules need 10 days/10 posts)

[Rambit]

Originally Posted by gamova

i have a set of 3 piece wheels for sale auto couture wheels with a six inch lip back an 3'' lip front. i took them of my srt8 with the big brake so they will fit. the bolt pattern is 5x114.3 +18 rear 5x115+14 trust me they will fit. the form want let me post pic an i cant post any new topic for some reson but it will let me add a reply thats crazy. ...........

You need 2 more posts to be able to post links to your pics. That should be easy enough to accomplish. From time to time we get those nasty spammers in here trying to link us to everything under the sun.

Bernie

[gamova]

Originally Posted by Rambit

You need 2 more posts to be able to post links to your pics. That should be easy enough to accomplish. From time to time we get those nasty spammers in here trying to link us to everything under the sun.

Bernie

thanks