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Old 08-09-2005, 12:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am going in for an alignment this weekend on my 300C at a local shop that I've been using on all of my cars. Should I make sure they align them to the revised specs posted above and should any special considerations be taken due to the fact that I have the Eibach lowering kit on the car? Thanks for any advice.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Alignment

I would suggest contacting your Chrysler Dealer and getting the LATEST TSB regarding the alignment.

Realize that the Chrysler Caster / Chamber settings make the 300c very exposed to sensitivity to road crown. In english it will pull left or right more than other manufactures due to just little variations in the road.

If the dealer won't do it under warranty I would suggest paying the charges to get it done. The most important value is the TOE-IN which causes your tire wear.
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Old 08-16-2005, 08:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
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My wear has been even, had the right pull bolt kit done last Summer. I think when I get my BFGs tomorrow I will rotate every 3K for max life.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:35 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Dealer already full of it...

Took my Silver C in for right pull, Oil Change, AC-freezing after long operation and tires cupping. Service rep tells me we have never had a problem with these tires before. At 7am this is not what I wanted to hear. I tell the guy to get the service manager. He comes over and I explain why Im there and what needs to be done. I hand him a current list of TSB's and explain that the tires are a known issue and in a normal tone of voice I ask can you get this done or do I need to talk to the owner of the dealership. Serv Mgr says "you seem to know alot about this car but we will look at the car and evaluate it". Ill update when I hear back from dealership.

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Old 08-17-2005, 12:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Mine are looking similar to this after 14,000 miles. I'm expecting to have to replace by 20,000. Hopefully there will be some good choices in the stock 18" size. (come on Michelin!)

Michelin has a 235/60/VR18 in its HX MXM4 at the TIRE RACK.

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Michelin has a 235/60/VR18 in its HX MXM4 at the TIRE RACK.

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Gang,

I just had these tires installed last week and they are a whole lot better than the OEM's. Now I just have to get the speedometer set correctly. I am finding that to be a PITA trying to get the seting right.



P.S. I got them at Discount Tire and they Prorated the Connie's out at a 100% and took that amount off of the Michelins. I paid just about $350+ tax and had new skins on the ground again.
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My car is going in next week for the front end alignment TSB 02-002-05. To correct the pull to the right,they will replace the camber bolts. They also flashed the PCM for hesitation on acceleration no TSB for this. But STAR online said refer to TSB 18-031-04 for the updated software so far it`s better.
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Gang,

I just had these tires installed last week and they are a whole lot better than the OEM's. Now I just have to get the speedometer set correctly. I am finding that to be a PITA trying to get the seting right.



P.S. I got them at Discount Tire and they Prorated the Connie's out at a 100% and took that amount off of the Michelins. I paid just about $350+ tax and had new skins on the ground again.
From what I can tell, there is only going to be a 1.7% difference reslting in 60 vs. 61 mph readings...you are agonizing over this little difference in speedo?
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Took my Silver C in for right pull, Oil Change, AC-freezing after long operation and tires cupping. Service rep tells me we have never had a problem with these tires before. At 7am this is not what I wanted to hear. I tell the guy to get the service manager. He comes over and I explain why Im there and what needs to be done. I hand him a current list of TSB's and explain that the tires are a known and in a normal tone of voice I ask can you get this done or do I need to talk to the owner of the dealership. Serv Mgr says "you seem to know alot about this car but we will look at the car and evaluate it". Ill update when I hear back from dealership.

Oil change no charge
AC fixed accord to TSB ( they replaced a 147 dollar part) no charge
Right pull Re-alignment to TSB No charge
Tires...No deal on the replacement.

tech made notes on the invoice stating "uneven wear recommend replacement and excessive wear at 13000 Tires are are 4/32 warranty replacement is recommended." I asked the tech why he wouldnt just do the replacement and he said srvc mgr is an idiot and wont authorize it...thats why he put his remarks on the invoice. When he brought my car up he said just take it to another dealer and they will see the remarks and should honor the warranty. Ahhhhhhhh5 star service at its finest.
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:50 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the info.

I have followed up with DC Customer Service but they basically just laughed and didn't care. Just excuses.

I asked for 3 items:
1) pay for my KM to travel from Toronto to Windsor because the Windsor dealer was the only one that would replace the rims.
2) pay for the alignment
3) pay for part of the tire wear due to the alignment

I faxed the summary of my discussion to the Customer Service department as well.

I doubt they will assist. DC Services has been very poor on this topic.
Well, I received a nice FORM letter from the "SERVICE" department. I don't know why they would call it SERVICE ... just a simple WE DON'T CARE. They will not admit any issue exists with the original alignment or tire wear or the issue that some dealers will replace rims and others won't. Their comment about the fact that the TSB exists was a simple "it does not imply any warranty" only repair instructions for the dealer service department. In other words ... known of the customer's business.

If anyone wants to escalate further I could scan and share the WHO CARES memo.

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