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Good day all,

we have recently undertaken a suiside door conversion for a customers 300c. Considering the global interest in this conversion we decided to post some pictures. Of all the vehicles we have put suiside doors on in the past, the 300 proved to be the most difficult. To add to the complexity of the conversion, the rear doors needed to be open to no less than 90 degrees to the body as per the customers request.

As with all of our conversions the vehicle needs to remain suitable for everday use, meaning water tight, wind noise free and also the doors must open and close like they did originally and msut NOT sag over time, additionally the doors must not appear "flimsily"(Must be a word) attached to the vehicle. The doors required complete reinforcing from within as did the quarter panel. Owing unto the additional reinforcement, the doors are bounce free and close and line-up like they did from the factory. Bear in mind in these pictures we are only half-way to completion. meaning none of the sheet metal has been put back in place, there has been no finishing of any kind, not actuators installed etc....still very raw. When we are done the vehicle will appear as though it came from the factory with suiside doors...which in our opinion it really should have. Will post more as we progress. Enjoy

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Good day all,

we have recently undertaken a suiside door conversion for a customers 300c. Considering the global interest in this conversion we decided to post some pictures. Of all the vehicles we have put suiside doors on in the past, the 300 proved to be the most difficult. To add to the complexity of the conversion, the rear doors needed to be open to no less than 90 degrees to the body as per the customers request.

As with all of our conversions the vehicle needs to remain suitable for everday use, meaning water tight, wind noise free and also the doors must open and close like they did originally and msut NOT sag over time, additionally the doors must not appear "flimsily"(Must be a word) attached to the vehicle. The doors required complete reinforcing from within as did the quarter panel. Owing unto the additional reinforcement, the doors are bounce free and close and line-up like they did from the factory. Bear in mind in these pictures we are only half-way to completion. meaning none of the sheet metal has been put back in place, there has been no finishing of any kind, not actuators installed etc....still very raw. When we are done the vehicle will appear as though it came from the factory with suiside doors...which in our opinion it really should have. Will post more as we progress. Enjoy

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looks like alot of work,im sure the finished product will look like a winner
 

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awesome !

it looks like yall know what your doing , i am planning on trying to use 2 hindges though for a little added strength, we have done a few trucks to date , never somthing with such little space in the pocket as the 300 though.

kudos for the effort.

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work...

Thank you for the positive words. It has been a considerable amount of work. In the end it will be flawless, and with a nice set of big wheels and the air ride planned it should look the part also.

The 2 hinge idea was explored early in the design phase, the hinges ended up being so close to one another we opted for one large hinge, reinventing the door internals and the quarter panel always plays a much larger role than hinge size.

It has not been a fast process, which is fine...we never rush anything up here. I will be sure to get some more photographs, I have a video of the door opening and closing I will post shortly also. Regards,

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when possible more pics please. I'd like to see the doors closed.

what else are you doing, as the inside is totally stripped?
 

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Attached is link to a small promo video, shows doors opening and closing and the doors lines.
http://media.putfile.com/300c

And yes, we do know it is "suicide" not "suiside" our co-op kid needs to read more apparently. :)


Regarding the rest of the vehicle, as can be seen by the pictures it will undergoing a long list of modifications that at the customers request will remain confidential. Expected completion date is early summer, I will post more photographs then.



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tekhen said:
when possible more pics please. I'd like to see the doors closed.

what else are you doing, as the inside is totally stripped?
 

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update...she is done!

The 90 degree suicide door conversion is now complete. We have managed to achieve the 90 degrees we wanted for the rear doors and re-designed the front door hinges of the car also to open to near 90 degrees in an attempt to balance the visual appeal of the vehicle. The rear doorstops allow the doors to open up to within 3mm of the quarter panel without hitting. All the reinforcement in the doors and behind the quarter worked perfectly. The doors do not twist, flex or sag in the least. Leaning, slamming and general abuse have had no effect on the doors operation so everyone is very please.







We have opted to shave the door handles on the car and have made provisions for hidden hydraulic actuators to open and close the doors. The front and rear doors have remained full power-locks and power windows. Additionally, the weather seals are still in place and function as they should. Behind the hinge is also sealed (not shown) to keep the elements from entering the quarter panel while driving.



The car is now ready for the body shop phase, all the welds will be ground smooth and the car will be stripped even further and prepped for paint. The are whispers of a 3 inch chop for the roof…so we may not be into paint just yet as we would love to drop the roofline.



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IMO the 300's should have come that way from the factory! I love the suicide doors! Keep us posted...
 

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I have to admit that you have done a terrific job and it looks very professional; BUT, I have to say that the idea and appearance of the suicide doors just leaves me cold. I would never have it done to my 300 and that is just my opinion. Obviously others see it otherwise. Maybe it is because I was once thrown out of a moving car as a kid when I opened a suicide door when the car was moving at 50 mph. I know first hand why they are called suicide doors.
 

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Any idea as to what the weight of the rear doors are ??
 

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wow, that is an excellent conversion! u even took the incentive to make the front doors open out more to match the back doors-awesome. this is the best i have seen so far....

btw..does anyone know what happened to Pappa Docs 300c? he was supposed to have his conversion done here in houston-but that was in June-now it is January-still nothing. i went to the ******* forum but nothing updated..there must have been a real HUGE problem..
 

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I must admit had I been thrown from a suicide door car I may have different feelings about the conversion. We did not weigh the rear doors before hand, we did weigh the material we added to the vehicle to reinforce the doors and quarters. We added a total of 18 pounds to the vehicle weight. only 4 pounds a side of which went into the doors, it is more important how and where the material is place vs how much material is placed.

once the rear doors were done we could not leave the fronts factory, it hurt the entire looks of the car. We managed to achieve roughly another 17 degress of opening from the front doors. Glad you all enjoy the car...will keep you posted of its progress.

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Checked that link....no video!

cpracing said:
Attached is link to a small promo video, shows doors opening and closing and the doors lines.
http://media.putfile.com/300c

And yes, we do know it is "suicide" not "suiside" our co-op kid needs to read more apparently. :)


Regarding the rest of the vehicle, as can be seen by the pictures it will undergoing a long list of modifications that at the customers request will remain confidential. Expected completion date is early summer, I will post more photographs then.



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