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Will someone please explain the 300C 5-speed shifting system. If I am driving in "D" will the unit shift through all 5 gears automatically? The display only shows 1,2,3, D and 4. If it does what speed will it shift into the fifth gear? I understand I can use the autostick to downshift but am confused by the display. It only shows the manual gears selected as I understand it. Sorry for my stupidity. This is the first 5 speed I have ever had. I assume if I were to manually shift it from a dead stop I'd go through 1,2,3,4 then D. Is this correct? Thanks, regards, Bob.
 

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BobF said:
Will someone please explain the 300C 5-speed shifting system. If I am driving in "D" will the unit shift through all 5 gears automatically? The display only shows 1,2,3, D and 4. If it does what speed will it shift into the fifth gear? I understand I can use the autostick to downshift but am confused by the display. It only shows the manual gears selected as I understand it. Sorry for my stupidity. This is the first 5 speed I have ever had. I assume if I were to manually shift it from a dead stop I'd go through 1,2,3,4 then D. Is this correct? Thanks, regards, Bob.
Are you sure your display doesn't go more like D, then
4, then 3, then 2, then 1?
The tranny is completely automatic in D. It won't get up into fifth gear until about 35 MPH on level ground. Going down a hill (based on my MDS indicator LED coming on) I've seen it hit fifth gear below 30 MPH.
With some reservations (to prevent over-revving the engine), it down shifts to wherever you slap it.
If placed in 2, 3, 4 or D at a stop it starts out in first and will upshift automatically to the gear you selected (and then some if you rev too high).
If you drop it into like 3 at 25 MPH and stand on the gas it will shift itself down to first and then, as speed comes up, upshift up to second and third.
Placing it in 1, 2, 3, or 4 does not necessarily mean it stays there. It can drop down a couple of cogs depending on power demand and notch up if revs get to high.
About the only thing "stick" about it is (with some reservation) the downshifting. And you have to wait for it to think about what you just told it to do before it actually does it just in case it thinks you mucked up.
If, at a standstill, you drop it into 1 and stand on the gas, it will upshift itself to second around 5300 RPM to keep from grenading the engine.
IMO, based on having driven standard shift 3, 4, and 5 speeds for 45 years, this tranny is way more "auto" than "stick". It would be more functional and fun if it went where you put it, and stayed there! I haven't driven it in snow yet. Maybe the ESP will help in situations where I'd like to lock it in second (starting out) or third when low torque is called for?
 

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Also ... You can upshift to D from any gear by holding the shifter to the right for a moment.
 

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Are you sure your display doesn't go more like D, then
4, then 3, then 2, then 1?
The tranny is completely automatic in D. It won't get up into fifth gear until about 35 MPH on level ground. Going down a hill (based on my MDS indicator LED coming on) I've seen it hit fifth gear below 30 MPH.
With some reservations (to prevent over-revving the engine), it down shifts to wherever you slap it.
If placed in 2, 3, 4 or D at a stop it starts out in first and will upshift automatically to the gear you selected (and then some if you rev too high).
If you drop it into like 3 at 25 MPH and stand on the gas it will shift itself down to first and then, as speed comes up, upshift up to second and third.
Placing it in 1, 2, 3, or 4 does not necessarily mean it stays there. It can drop down a couple of cogs depending on power demand and notch up if revs get to high.
About the only thing "stick" about it is (with some reservation) the downshifting. And you have to wait for it to think about what you just told it to do before it actually does it just in case it thinks you mucked up.
If, at a standstill, you drop it into 1 and stand on the gas, it will upshift itself to second around 5300 RPM to keep from grenading the engine.
IMO, based on having driven standard shift 3, 4, and 5 speeds for 45 years, this tranny is way more "auto" than "stick". It would be more functional and fun if it went where you put it, and stayed there! I haven't driven it in snow yet. Maybe the ESP will help in situations where I'd like to lock it in second (starting out) or third when low torque is called for?

Hi. Thanks for the great explanation. Where is the MDS Indicator LED? Regards, Bob.
 

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You are Right on the Display

DESIREE said:
Are you sure your display doesn't go more like D, then
4, then 3, then 2, then 1?
The tranny is completely automatic in D. It won't get up into fifth gear until about 35 MPH on level ground. Going down a hill (based on my MDS indicator LED coming on) I've seen it hit fifth gear below 30 MPH.
With some reservations (to prevent over-revving the engine), it down shifts to wherever you slap it.
If placed in 2, 3, 4 or D at a stop it starts out in first and will upshift automatically to the gear you selected (and then some if you rev too high).
If you drop it into like 3 at 25 MPH and stand on the gas it will shift itself down to first and then, as speed comes up, upshift up to second and third.
Placing it in 1, 2, 3, or 4 does not necessarily mean it stays there. It can drop down a couple of cogs depending on power demand and notch up if revs get to high.
About the only thing "stick" about it is (with some reservation) the downshifting. And you have to wait for it to think about what you just told it to do before it actually does it just in case it thinks you mucked up.
If, at a standstill, you drop it into 1 and stand on the gas, it will upshift itself to second around 5300 RPM to keep from grenading the engine.
IMO, based on having driven standard shift 3, 4, and 5 speeds for 45 years, this tranny is way more "auto" than "stick". It would be more functional and fun if it went where you put it, and stayed there! I haven't driven it in snow yet. Maybe the ESP will help in situations where I'd like to lock it in second (starting out) or third when low torque is called for?

Hi. You are right on the display. My mistake! Thanks for the heads up on the MDS light setup. Best regards, Bob.
 

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Also ... You can upshift to D from any gear by holding the shifter to the right for a moment.
Hi Gary. Thanks for the info. Regards, Bob.
 

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BobF said:
Hi Gary. Thanks for the info. Regards, Bob.
You are welcome Bob; This was a tip I picked up on this forum. I don't think it is mentioned in the users manual, but if it is, I missed it.
Cheers, Gary
 

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hello all new member

i have a 2006 300c and love it . my question is with the auto stick ive had auto stick cars before. but all had a seprate gate for this mode .the 300 dose not i found myself under hard acceleration and i left hand on shifter it would go into autostick mode has any had this happen to them. also my car even on a dead stop starts on 4 i have to down shift it.and it wont down shift to 1 when stoped
 

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Welcome aboard Omski, yes, you have to be careful about resting your hand on the shifter. If you hold it to the left it'll go to the lowest gear depending on speed/RPM.
Also, it sounds like there's been a change from '05-'06. The '05s will always take off in 1st regardless of shift indicator position (unless you have an SRT I believe).
 

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omski said:
i have a 2006 300c and love it . my question is with the auto stick ive had auto stick cars before. but all had a seprate gate for this mode .the 300 dose not i found myself under hard acceleration and i left hand on shifter it would go into autostick mode has any had this happen to them. also my car even on a dead stop starts on 4 i have to down shift it.and it wont down shift to 1 when stoped

omski, If you have the shifter in "D" it is supposed to downshift to 1st when you stop; you can't feel it but when you start off again it should definitely be in 1st. If your's truly is not doing this and you are sure you hve it in "D" on the display then something is wrong.

But yeah, if you hold this shifter to the left or right it will continue to manually downshift of upshift....either watch the display and let go of the shifter when you get to the gear you want, or or just move it quickly and let it spring back and it will only change one gear at a time.

Personally I find manually shifting rather pointless due to the "delay" from when you move the lever and when the shift actually occurs; you have to 'plan ahead' to shift when you want so you might as well just leave it in "D" and let the computer do it. It does a pretty good job in most situations; perhaps an aftermarket programmer will become available some day that will let us make the shifts more 'real time' in autostick. My dad has an SRT8 and it's the same way. Only real difference is that rather than 1,2,3,4, and "D", the SRT8 has 1,2,3,4,5, and "D". Same transmission just different programming that lets you manually hold 5th gear.
 

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thank you kevin ,somthing then is out of wack .because when im dead stoped and shift to auto stck mode the car stas at 4 and i have to down shift to 1st my self.and i iagree there is very little advantage to auto shifting .but its anew car every should be working normaly
 

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it seems like it dose arnold its just auto stick dose not start on 1sst or down shift automaticly as i slow down i can shift all day and not miss a beat as long as im doing the shifting
 

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omski said:
it seems like it dose arnold its just auto stick dose not start on 1sst or down shift automaticly as i slow down i can shift all day and not miss a beat as long as im doing the shifting
Sounds like it's working ok to me. What you're describing is what a lot of us wanted in our '05s.
Anyone else with an '06? Can you take off in any gear?
 
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