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Early march , I took my car to Kings ( chrysler dealer ) as had problem with poor heating / corroding alloys / satnav issues.

I picked it up at teatime , they told me they didnt have the parts in stock , so had ordered a new set of alloys in , and the new satnav disc , and also the new parts for the heating , as they had found out what was wrong with it.

I then got in my car and took it home , I did noticed that the passenger seat had been reclined right back , ( looks like they had been underneath the dash ) I presume to look under where the heater parts are ).
Anyway I think the next day I went to dominos in my car to pick up my pizza , BUT when i got back in the car it refused to start . The starter motor did not turn over , there was only the dash lights that came on .
So had recovery firm come pick it up and take it to Kings .

1 day later , I was told that the battery was low , so they would charge it up and try it the next day.
the next day they did not Phone until after 5pm and said that it still did not start , but they were going to check the battery the next day as it maybe faulty
The next day after 5pm they rang and said that the battery past the test , so tthey would check some modules the next day

Anyway I lost count of days they had it , but when I rang asking about the car they told me a couple of specialists would be in the following day to have a look and diagnose the fault.

I finally got a call on the following wednesday to say they had fixed it , ( said it was static in the battery ? )

They had also fitted the new alloys , nut were just waiting for the heater parts , and satnav disc . which was due in anyday . I told them to keep the car until the other parts were done .
They phoned at the weekend and said it was done , so I picked it up.

They said any problems to let them know before 31st ( when my warranty expires )
Anyway I did ring them back on the 21st , as the heating still was not right , but they told me they were no longer chrysler dealers , and that I would have to try another dealer . I then phoned another dealer , but were told that they had taken on all of Kings warranty cars , so couldnt look at mine for over a week , by which time my warranty would have run out .
So I thought sod it I will just put up with the poor heating , as didnt fancy the 100 mile round trip ( twice!! ) to a Newcastle dealer.
Now today I have just took my car into my local test station to get its first test , and it died again :( on their lift .
I foned Kings , but they said they now had no equiptment to check anything , and I should try another dealer. which i have done , and was told that it couldnt be done under warranty as it was now out of warranty .
I have just foned chrysler uk , who said I should have it recovered to any fiat dealer , and tell them to put it through as goodwill job ?

Have read the forum , about TPMS sensors ( I think they are at the front wheel area but not sure exactly where these are located ).
Also it maybe co-incidence , but it seems to have happened right after they were poking aound the dash/heater parts .

I was going to have it recovered to the dealer tomorrow , but they say they prob cant even look at it until next wednesday .
 

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Theyve really been completely useless/uncaring. Sorry for your problems. Static in your battery?? - sounds like sci-fi to me
 

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The symptoms sounds very similar to what I was getting when the tpms sensor failed. Maybe you can disconnect the sensors and see if it fixes the issue. While you are at it check the tpms connectors for corrosion. It might be the connectors that are playing up as well.

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102627

Check the post above for more details on the sensor location and part numbers.

Cheers
Prav
 

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they also changed 2 of the valves/ sensors in the alloys while it was in .

Are these TPMS transponders located at the front of the wheel arches ( removing the 10mm bolts/screws
 

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That's really bad news, you must be annoyed by now, I know I would be.
Hope you eventually get it sorted OK, but you have had very, very, bad service.

When you say it won't start, I assume the starter motor turns the engine over OK now. When Kings told you about static in the batter, they spoke total nonsense.

The TPMS transponders are under each wheel arch plastic cover which are fixed to the front bumper.

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That's really bad news, you must be annoyed by now, I know I would be.
Hope you eventually get it sorted OK, but you have had very, very, bad service.

When you say it won't start, I assume the starter motor turns the engine over OK now. When Kings told you about static in the batter, they spoke total nonsense.

The TPMS transponders are under each wheel arch plastic cover which are fixed to the front bumper.

Jack
No the starter motor does not make a noise ( it does not even attempt to start )
I think there is only a click sound from the gear shift area
 

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No the starter motor does not make a noise ( it does not even attempt to start )
I think there is only a click sound from the gear shift area
Yes well worth just unplugging the TPMS modules under the front wheel arches which can cause non starting/immobiliser problems.
But could also be a simple starter circuit problem.

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My car had starting problems two years ago. All the lights came on dash as usual, but just a click was heard & the starter did not even spin. My man put a new solenoid on the starter, & since then its been fine.

What problem are you having with the heating? My car is cold inside on the passenger side, I heard from other forum members the car requires a flash update on the ecu to re-program the heating/cooling blend flap doors. Although the blend doors drop off & break on jeep vehicles & require the heater box cutting open & the doors re-attaching.

Hope that helps...
 

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A positive post from me to contrast how it should happen!

My CRD failed to start a few weeks ago on a Saturday afternoon - identical symptoms - all lights on but nothing happened when turning key to Start position. The car was recovered by the RAC and I got them to dump it outside the service dept of Horsham Car Centre.

I popped down on the Monday morning to explain why my car was outside and gave them the key. They fixed loose wiring to the starter solenoid and spotted the start of air-con pipe chaffing and fixed that as well. I had the car back in the afternoon.

Admittedly, the snow had caused a few customers to cancel service work so they had some capacity, and I had to pay their top-notch hourly rate, but it was fixed and back on the road quicker than I expected.
 

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had a call from the mot station this morning , to say that they diconnected the battery on the night , and trickle charged the battery over night , and the car sprang into life and started first turn of the key.
They left it running until I got there and said that I should take it to the local motorfactors who should be able to test the battery.

So I took it straight to the motorfactors who told me that car had to be switched off to test the battery. I switched it off , but said that it possibly might not start again.
He tested the battery , but it said good battery , he suggested to bring it back another day when I had used the car as it had just been charged up all night .

BUT when i turned the key again , it would not even turn over again :(

So have had it recovered to Alexanders ( who Kings have told me have taken on Chrysler/Fiat 2 weeks ago)

I did ring them this afternoon to make sure they received the car , they said yes and they would look at it wednesday , unless an earlier slot appeared .

I told them the last invoice was in the car from the work just done by Kings.

So will now just wait until they contact me with any progress





@steeleblue300c , the heating only really seemed to work on full , anything below , then it seems ok for a while but eventually will go cold , and to make it warm again you have to turn it full on , and it kicks in again ( but full is too hot )
It seems to operate more like an on/off switch ( hot OR cold and nothing in the middle )
 

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@steeleblue300c , the heating only really seemed to work on full , anything below , then it seems ok for a while but eventually will go cold , and to make it warm again you have to turn it full on , and it kicks in again ( but full is too hot )
It seems to operate more like an on/off switch ( hot OR cold and nothing in the middle )[/QUOTE]

yup. like mine, but only on the passenger side in my case.
could you let me know how they cure it please.
 

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On mine, when the tpms transponder failed, the steering lock did not initially lock.

It was only after the following day having recovered the vehicle back home, I tried every attempts to start the vehicle and then out of nowhere the steering decided to lock. I thought to myself, holly sh#t I would have been in some deep trouble stranded.

Basically if your unlucky and it decides to lock, you won't be able to disengage it from 'parking', so then cannot put it into neutral to roll it onto the recovery truck. A lucky escape for me I reckon :yup:
 

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Thats what exactly happened, took couple of attempts, 2 or 3 then the immobiliser kicked in, after that starter didn't turn. But the steering wheel never locked. It locked on the follow day after a few more failed attempts to get it started :yup:
 

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Update .... they said they found loose/poor connection on the starter motor
The guy was not sure how to put through as goodwill claim , ( said he is going on a warranty course on thursday ? )
So I had to pay the £56 repair bill , but he said that hopefully if it goes through ok then Chrysler should refund me .

They also never had time to check the poor heating , but I have booked it back in this monday to have that checked . ( that was also a job supposed to have been fixed on my last warranty claim )
So hopefully I can claim both back from chrysler.

Have had the car back a few days now and it has started everytime
 

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Basically if your unlucky and it decides to lock, you won't be able to disengage it from 'parking', so then cannot put it into neutral to roll it onto the recovery truck. A lucky escape for me I reckon :yup:
Just reading through this thread and thought i'd remind folks about the pink block trick.
If you pull the coin/pen holder out of the centre console, there's a hole through to the gear shifter.
You can depress the pink block with your finger, which overrides the parking lock, allowing you to engage neutral.
 

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Just reading through this thread and thought i'd remind folks about the pink block trick.
If you pull the coin/pen holder out of the centre console, there's a hole through to the gear shifter.
You can depress the pink block with your finger, which overrides the parking lock, allowing you to engage neutral.
Good one, nice tip, I wondered what that hole was for .:smokin:
 
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