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How many of your routinely turn off the esp once you start driving?
Is it as often as cleaning the rims??
 

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Usually I turn it off after the first time I notice the engine cutting my power for me. Sometimes I exercise "pre-emptive ESP disabling" when I feel like feeling some acceleration.
 

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Button Off...

...power on!
First button I hit after the key.
Call me nanny-less!!! :silly:
 

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I have never turned mine off, I might just need it when trying to avoid that deer or hit that patch of gravel on the pavement rounding a late night curve, in that instant there will be no time to turn it on.
 

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II kings 9:20 said:
I have never turned mine off, I might just need it when trying to avoid that deer or hit that patch of gravel on the pavement rounding a late night curve, in that instant there will be no time to turn it on.
Don't forget: "Off" isn't really "Off" in an SRT-8. It just allows more wheel spin/slip before kicking in - but it still kicks in.
 

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I usually turn it off. Drove it for the first time in the rain a couple of days ago, I turned it back on when it started coming down hard.
 

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JMatt said:
Don't forget: "Off" isn't really "Off" in an SRT-8. It just allows more wheel spin/slip before kicking in - but it still kicks in.
Ko-Rect, you can never really turn it off unless you pull a fuse, good argument for leaving it on unless you want maximim burnouts, acceleration,etc. I will turn it off when I finally go to the strip.
 

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Did anyone ever figure out which fuse to pull?
And does pulling the fuse affect other systems?

I hate the ESP.
Everytime it kicks in I initially think that there is a problem.
Sudden decreases in acceleration, with no change in peddle position, bother me.

-Nevermore

Nevermind, I found it.
Fuse 17 - also controls ABS
 

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ESP's control over traction control was my only concern when I bought my car a year ago. But fortunately the ESP allows enough wheel spin/squeal that it is rarely noticeable. So I never turn it off anymore.

On my previous Bonneville SSEI I had to turn off traction control every time I started the car. The traction control would kick-in way too much, zapping the power from the car during quick starts.
 

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II kings 9:20 said:
I have never turned mine off, I might just need it when trying to avoid that deer or hit that patch of gravel on the pavement rounding a late night curve, in that instant there will be no time to turn it on.
Gee, I wonder how we all survived driving in the days prior to ESP!!~ --- BUT THAT'S ONLY MY $.04.
 

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I had ESP button in my last car (Mercedes C32 V6 with factory SC). I used to turn that thing off every time I got in as well. Everyone on the c32life website said they did as well.

Till one night I was acting like a tool racing a Pontiac Firebird with some kids in it. I tore them up at 2 lights, then I told them it would be cool if this thing was a stick huh? They liked it. Well, to make a long story short getting on the 101 freeway I lost the thing, I think it was a little my fault because I hit the brakes. Spun out a bunch of times, and luckily I was fine... The car was not I hit a fence - the car went under it and scratched the thing from front to rear! Aslo ran over a tree and damaged the 19s I had on it, and the lights and the undercarraige. $29,000 damage (wish they would have totaled it...). They thought they could fix it for 12K, guess not!
 

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charlie D said:
Gee, I wonder how we all survived driving in the days prior to ESP!!~ --- BUT THAT'S ONLY MY $.04.
Not well, WC air bags and ESP are making a huge impact in reducing injury and death, thanks to the Europeans. From 95-99 and 2000-2004 the E320 was studied in Germany. From 2000-2004 single car crashes were down (as I recall) 45% and deaths in single car crashes were down 35%. This was essentially the same car, same population of drivers, etc., the only major difference was ESP, remember these were single car crashes. ESP has already had more of an impact than ABS over more than 20 years as will WC airbags.
 

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Nevermore said:
Did anyone ever figure out which fuse to pull?
And does pulling the fuse affect other systems?

I hate the ESP.
Everytime it kicks in I initially think that there is a problem.
Sudden decreases in acceleration, with no change in peddle position, bother me.

-Nevermore

Nevermind, I found it.
Fuse 17 - also controls ABS
Does that work on the SRT8 ? (I tried looking around, but didn't see anything labeled ESP etc...)

I did find the fuse for the "Powertrain auto-shutdown" or safety shut down .. pulled it, but the car didn't even start with it anymore ....


I have an 18" drag tire on an 18" rim that I'm trying to use at the track, but because the overall diameter is 2" shorter, it's giving the traction control system a serious issue, and auto shuts down the whole drivetrain, leaving me at the 100 ft mark coasting ......


If I can truly disable the damned traction control ... I should be hitting some low 12's already ......
 
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