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Good questions, does the manual address this issue. Don't bother asking Corky at the svc. dept. he won't know sh!t from shinola. DC specifically calls for 89, I can't remember any talk about etoh, not sure what I will use if I am in the corn belt. I would be willing to bet your engine that either choice will be OK in the long run.
 

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89 octane w/ ethanol is usually at least 10 cents per gallon cheaper than regular 87 octane, however, I would bet that the reduction in MPG when using ethanol would negate the price difference. I would like to run whatever gives me the best performance.
 

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So the 89 w/ ethanol should be the choice here over the 87 or 92 without ethanol? Sounds good...I currently can only put the 92 in my 2000 Durango R/T because it has a performance chip that calls for it and I have never ran ethanol in any vehicle due to it being less efficient and being somewhat skeptical of the whole industry and the giant subsidies that it requires. But with it being at least 10 cents cheaper per gallon, that probably eliminates any efficiency difference.
 

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So the 89 w/ ethanol should be the choice here over the 87 or 92 without ethanol? Sounds good...I currently can only put the 92 in my 2000 Durango R/T because it has a performance chip that calls for it and I have never ran ethanol in any vehicle due to it being less efficient and being somewhat skeptical of the whole industry and the giant subsidies that it requires. But with it being at least 10 cents cheaper per gallon, that probably eliminates any efficiency difference.

I wouldn't worry about it....Like I said, the bigger states have absolutely no choice. We HAVE to run ethanol....In fact, it's been in place here in Illinois as a standard additive for over 10 years now.
 

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You have ethanol in every grade of gasoline in Illinois??? That is crazy...they give you no choice? Only our 89 has it, but a buddy of mine owns a BP station by the interstate and he tells me that about 75% of the gas he sells is the BP Silver which is the 89 w/ ethanol. This is probably because it is the cheapest.
 

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You have ethanol in every grade of gasoline in Illinois??? That is crazy...they give you no choice? Only our 89 has it, but a buddy of mine owns a BP station by the interstate and he tells me that about 75% of the gas he sells is the BP Silver which is the 89 w/ ethanol. This is probably because it is the cheapest.

Actually I don't think premium does, but yes, 87 and 89 contain ethanol.

From what I've heard Illinois is the leading refiner of ethanol oxygenated gasoline. I even see E-85 cars around once in a while (85% Ethanol running)
 

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Yeah...Archer Daniels Midland is based in Decatur so I assume your government has their lips pressed tightly to their arses in exchange for some financial contributions. That whole ethanol industry is crazy...it can only survive because of the huge subsidies.
 

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Yeah...Archer Daniels Midland is based in Decatur so I assume your government has their lips pressed tightly to their arses in exchange for some financial contributions. That whole ethanol industry is crazy...it can only survive because of the huge subsidies.
Yep!

And the reason is because Illinois is still one of the biggest corn producing states....The government is in bed with farmers mooching off of subsidation.
 

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That is crazy...they give you no choice?
Welcome to the wonderful planet Earth. Until politics is replaced (like that will ever happen) with a rational decision making process (computer directed even), stupid decisions, special interests, greed and others will continue to prevail.
 

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I have to say it really bugs me when people talk about poor gas milage with ethanol blended fuels.
Do you know who did the research on that? The oil companies. Hello!
I live in MN and we are going to be switching to 20% blend in a few years. 20% is the max blend without engine modification. I've driven a E85 car and it got the same milage regardless of if it was straight up gas, or the E85 blend.
Yes the government subsidizes it..but if it makes gas cheaper isn't it worth it?

I'm envious of the E85 cars here that are paying on average 20-30 Cents a gallon less than I am.
 
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