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That's OK--the joke is really on Ford! How can they continue to miss the boat so badly? It really makes you wonder how they can fail to see what is happening in the market with performance sedans.
 

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I'm still reeling that both Ford and Chevy are still not unveiling RWD V8 performance sedans. Granted, the Marauder was the most recent attempt by Ford in decades, but why won't Chevy go back to the wide, low, large Caprice/Impala? Why continue to butcher the Impala SS name with that FWD V6 POS? What happened to the Ford Forty-Nine concept? How about the Lincoln Continental concept? Those were AMAZING! Come on!
 

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I'm still reeling that both Ford and Chevy are still not unveiling RWD V8 performance sedans.
Since the 500 is offered in a AWD platform, does anyone know if it could easily be turned into a rear wheel drive vehicle? It is my guess that Ford is going to do this and put some power under it at some point in the future. They can't continue with these under powered puss cars much longer, can they?

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They can, but you're right - AWD provides some welcome hope that Ford will in fact, put some real HP behind the wheels.
With gas prices edging closer to $3/gal, however, look for the accountants to trump the real car guys inside the corporate world however.
Fortunately, we HAVE our Cs.
(Thank heaven).
 

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Look what Ford did with SVT. They've basically dismantled it until '07. If their Specialty Vehicle Team isn't doing anything, I doubt their other engineers and designers are thinking of anything performance related in a sedan. And forget about Chevy. '96 Impi was it for them. Shame shame shame.
 

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A ray of hope.

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Look what Ford did with SVT. They've basically dismantled it until '07. If their Specialty Vehicle Team isn't doing anything, I doubt their other engineers and designers are thinking of anything performance related in a sedan. And forget about Chevy. '96 Impi was it for them. Shame shame shame.
Dismantled SVT? Really??
I heard that they had loosened all the special-dealers only requirements, and would allow any dealer to sell SVT cars/parts. Maybe we should call that "watering-down" SVT. Got this info from the assistant mgr at World of Ford here in Alex. Va.
Now performance-wise, Ford did recently announce production of the new Sport Trac Adrenaline. :p
Not a car, but close (4 dr/AWD/V8 - 4.6L/390hp).
There's hope... :cool:
(PS - See any door handles? :D )
 

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Dr Speed said:
That's OK--the joke is really on Ford! How can they continue to miss the boat so badly?
LOL...I think your statement is more appropriate for GM. If you think Ford missed the boat on the 500, take a look at what's coming from them. Come on, the Mustang?!?? They absolutely nailed that car and are upping production by ~50%

So the 300 is better than the 500....Ford still rules in truck sales over DCX so they don't really care right now.

GM on the otherhand, has pulled the plug on it's rear wheel platform and is investing in SUV's ... ROFLMAO, with gas prices the way they are expect very very very gloomy times ahead for GM.

Bob Lutz has turned out to be a putz. I had such high hopes.

Oh well, at least the Vette rocks!!!!
 

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I actually considered buying a new Mercury Maruader. I went to the dealership the day their first car came in and insisted that I needed a test drive. I was so disgusted with the interior quality, noise, and piss poor performance that I laughed in the dealers face when he asked $1600.00 over MSRP.
When I went to drive the 300C before ordering my SRT-8, I was immediately impressed with build quality, interior, and performance. What a difference! Chrysler knows what they are doing! It reminds me of the old days as a kid when my friends and I drove early seventies Chrysler bombers.
 

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I must say that I think GM is going in the right direction, at least with their Cadillac program. They need to reduce prices, but they are at least showing signs of understanding that performance luxury cars must have rear wheel drive and V-8 engines.
 

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Dr Speed said:
I must say that I think GM is going in the right direction, at least with their Cadillac program. They need to reduce prices, but they are at least showing signs of understanding that performance luxury cars must have rear wheel drive and V-8 engines.
They may be going the right direction with RWD and power, but I think the whole 'crisp edged' styling they have gone with is already starting to look dated.
 

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True enough. Their "Arts and Science" look is a tough load to swallow.
 

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Dr Speed said:
I must say that I think GM is going in the right direction, at least with their Cadillac program. They need to reduce prices, but they are at least showing signs of understanding that performance luxury cars must have rear wheel drive and V-8 engines.
That's just it though, there are no new RWD platforms coming from GM. What you see now in Cadillac is the pinnacle. No more....Not at least until someone at GM wakes up and starts kickin' ass.
 
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