Full Fuel Tank Stall - SOLVED

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NYC SRT

Discussion Starter · May 8, 2014 (Edited)

Has anybody's 5.7 or 6.1 stalled after filling the fuel tank? It happened to me many times before until I came across the band-aid fix of not filling my fuel tank all the way. Instead, I would fill it to 3/4. This prevented the dangerous stalling condition. Turns out it was a faulty valve in the fuel tank which some people had figured out. Myself and many others filed complaints with the NHTSA who finally did something about it. My lawyer was literally putting together a class-action lawsuit when I came across these articles today . . .

Fuel-Tank Warranties Extended on 2006 Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger and Magnum | Edmunds.com

Chrysler Extends Fuel-Tank Warranty on 2006 V-8 Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger and Magnum - KickingTires

For anyone who paid $1200 to get their fuel tank replaced, I'm sure you could use this to get your money back. Chrysler finally admits that the fuel tank valve is faulty and they are extending the fuel tank warranty to a lifetime provision.

Please spread the word about this.

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Bacon

· #2 · May 22, 2014

I received a letter from Chrysler today regard this issue. I have never had the problem myself though. ('06 300c SRT8)

The letter states: "....the warranty period (3 years or 36,000 miles) on your vehicle's 19-gallon fuel tank has been extended to lifetime coverage.".
And, "...applies to select model year 2005-2006 Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger, Dodge Magnum vehicles."

It then goes on to say if you experience the problem now or in the future to contact your dealer to have the repairs performed.

Additionally, there is an enclosed "Customer Reimbursement Claim Form" that can be returned to request a possible refund for any related repairs in the past.

"For any questions or concerns, contact your dealer or the Chrysler Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-CHRYSLER (247-9753) or 1-800-4-A-Dodge (423-6343)."

Mike in the Dro

· #3 · May 22, 2014 (Edited)

I'm not wholly convinced they should limit the lifetime fuel tank warranty to only those model years. I purchased a '13 S model in November, and coincidentally -- whether this was the proximate cause or not -- after I filled the tank for the first time, the next morning (on my short ride to my BART train for work) at maybe 20MPH, my car shuddered and sputtered to where I was almost certain it was going to die (it didn't). I don't know for sure if it was this same vapor problem as was reported here and in even earlier posts I've read on these forums, but those were the circumstances. I brought it to the dealer for a check and they found nothing and/or couldn't replicate it. It hasn't happened since.

I think I should be adding at the end of every post, "...this is why I'm buying an extended lifetime warranty [on month 11]."*

*Irrespective of the fact that I already realize this particular fuel tank extended warranty does not apply to my specific 2013 car.

MikeHTally

· #4 · May 22, 2014

Got our letter Monday. Taking it in next Tuesday.

Mackinback

· #5 · May 23, 2014

I had my tank replaced 2 weeks ago.. Before these letters were hitting peoples mailboxes.. I had a hard time getting my dealer to acknowledge the fuel tank problem and warranty.. I ended up calling Chrysler, who confirmed my car fell under the warranty, had them call my dealer while I was on hold, and fill them in & schedule a day.
Needless to say, I never thought I would be so excited to fill my car completely.. Oh and I got a '14 Challenger rental for the day to boot!

Good luck everybody!

MacK
P.S. the defective tanks also were used in other LX models (and are covered).

IESRT8

· #6 · May 23, 2014

I believe I have been having this issue recently. Did not really correlate to the fill-up but last time it happened was the red light right after the fill-up. Stalled and fluctuating idle. Will have to get a new tank I guess.

ChryslerCares

· #7 · May 23, 2014

X53 Extended Warranty on 19 Gallon Fuel Tanks is for the following vehicles:

• 2005-2006 Chrysler 300 / 300c (LX)
• 2006 -Dodge Charger (LX)
• 2005-2006 Dodge Magnum (LX)

This Extended Warranty Bulletin applies only to vehicles:
• Built between January 2, 2004 MDH (010209)-July 7, 2006 MDH (070704) with Sales Code NFK

This warranty extension coverage is unlimited time and miles.T

MADDOG

· #8 · May 23, 2014

I got my letter yesterday and filed it with the rest of my vehicle's paper. I've not had the problem but then again most of the time I fill up, after the first click the nozzle is pulled.

Not sure if I have the faulty valve but I guess it won't hurt to have it checked.

NYC SRT

Discussion Starter · #9 · May 23, 2014

From what I've read, it seems that the float part of the valve swells and stays open due to gasoline with a high ethanol content. I had the dealership give me my old tank so I could inspect and poke around at it. Sure enough, the valve is built into the tank. Cannot remove it without destroying the tank. Had they made the valve removable (like the twist lock cover to the fuel pump) this would have been an easy fix. Smh.

craigo0087

· #10 · May 24, 2014

Just got my warranty letter in the mail today. So glad theyre gonna fix this. Been dealing with this issue for almost two years on my 2005. I knew you had to replace the whole tank as that valve is molded into it.

Davidjustin1982

· #11 · May 28, 2014

Pissed off over this gas tank!

Have to vent here and tell some of you guys that are dealing with the gas tank issues what to expect. I was told that I have to prove that the car would stall for the dealer. I told them the only way that I can do that is to fill the car up and have it stall several times before I got to the dealer. I did this, walked in, told them that it stalled three times in half a mile, and asked them if they have what they need. The guy at the counter says ok and then asks why I filled the car with gas. I told him that I was told to do this the day before by the dealer. He tells me that I will not be reimbursed for the full tank of gas since they will have to drain it. When I protest he asks me if I would like to bring it back tomorrow so I can "drive some of the gas out of it". I then ask about a rental car..... He says that I will not be provided one because Chrysler won't authorize one since my car is out of the 36,000 mile warranty. I leave the dealer, call Chrysler and they won't budge on the rental, even though it is their damn fault! I told the lady that my 2005 300C only has 46,000 on it and that a rental should be provided but that got me no help. I was seriously thinking about getting my wife a new charger when her lease is up in two months, but after this I don't know...

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NYC SRT

Discussion Starter · #12 · May 29, 2014

That sucks, man. But a couple of things here. First, whenever dealing with a dealership, get the full name of the person with whom you spoke. Get everything in writing too, if possible. I got my car back the same day, so not sure what to tell you about the rental. Couldn't they just siphon the gas? I did it once with a $10 pump. But since you're just venting, my best advice is just to consider it a "deductible." A rental and a full tank of gas come out to about $100 total. Not a bad deal for a new $900 fuel tank plus labor . . . even though it is their fault.

NYC SRT

Discussion Starter · #13 · May 29, 2014

Question - when the fuel vapor line would get flooded due to the faulty valve, wouldn't this in turn flood the vapor canister? And if so, does anyone know if we should also be repairing/replacing the vapor canister? Or maybe some other part that should not have come in contact with liquid fuel?

Mackinback

· #14 · Jun 4, 2014

Does anybody know if during the tank replacement they need to disconnect or mess with the backup sensors? Mine have been acting funny ever since my tank was replaced.
I know if I call the dealer up without any 'backup info', that they will say it wasn't because of their work..

Sorry to hear of your bad experience Davidjustin.. I was told to make sure I brought the car with as little fuel as possible, to help aid the tech removing the old tank.. I also got a rental Challenger on Chrysler too.. Sounds like you have a crappy dealer or service guy..

and NYC SRT - To my understanding the valve freezes in the closed position.. Therefore not allowing the extra vapors to exit the tank properly.. So there is no flooding. But at any case, all the purge valve does is it adds the vapors to the system for burning. That is my understanding any ways..

MacK

rlinden

· #15 · Jun 8, 2014

The valve actually gets stuck OPEN. So when the solenoid opens to burn off the vapor it actually dumps liquid fuel into the engine and floods it. My car has this problem, I got my warranty letter but haven't scheduled the replacement yet.

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Skenny crosby

· #16 · Jul 29, 2014

Engine failure

It happen to my 2006 Chrysler 300(40000 miles). It stop suddenly while driving on the interstate. Many time loose power .
Take several time to dealership but the problem still there.
Now I have funny noise when driving that car. Brought to Firestone to look it up . I was shock that the engine already bad condition.

Hemispherical

· #17 · Oct 7, 2014

Same Same

Same problem since I bought it in January of this year. Called the dealership yesterday and they are ordering more replacement fuel tanks. The problem with mine is getting worse. That float must be stuck in there good now because I have the newly added problem of being unable to add much gas to my tank without it splashing out despite that it is nowhere near full acording to the fuel guage.

tedodyssey

· #18 · Oct 13, 2014

NYC SRT said:
Has anybody's 5.7 or 6.1 stalled after filling the fuel tank? It happened to me many times before until I came across the band-aid fix of not filling my fuel tank all the way. Instead, I would fill it to 3/4. This prevented the dangerous stalling condition. Turns out it was a faulty valve in the fuel tank which some people had figured out. Myself and many others filed complaints with the NHTSA who finally did something about it. My lawyer was literally putting together a class-action lawsuit when I came across these articles today . . .

Fuel-Tank Warranties Extended on 2006 Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger and Magnum | Edmunds.com

Chrysler Extends Fuel-Tank Warranty on 2006 V-8 Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger and Magnum - KickingTires

For anyone who paid $1200 to get their fuel tank replaced, I'm sure you could use this to get your money back. Chrysler finally admits that the fuel tank valve is faulty and they are extending the fuel tank warranty to a lifetime provision.

Please spread the word about this.

you guys are the best i'm in nyc also srt8 2006 300c 44,500 mi. same problem gas tank fillup shutdown just callled chrysler company my car is on the list i will make an appointment with dealer! LOVE YOU GUYS!:fing02::arms::grouphug:

:biggrin:

dbonser

· #19 · Jan 13, 2015

Just experienced the stall for the first time last weekend after a fill up - right in the middle of an intersection. Took the car to the dealer today and they told me it's a 6 month wait. :eeksurprise:

Hopefully it won't take that long...

Other than not filling it completely - which I've seen mentioned - the service advisor said to let it run for a minute or so before and after fill up so it has time to even out the fuel between the 2 sides of the gas tank.

Hemispherical

· #20 · Jan 14, 2015

Yep, it's a PIA. Been waiting over 3 months now for a new tank. Not holding my breath.

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