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My fellow Canadians: (Spoken by Lester B Rambit) :D

A short time ago the topic of Canadian Gas Guzzler Tax came up in another unrelated thread. As I recall Mickyjohn and someone from BC said we didn't have one and I was fine with that. :)

I was at the dealership today & I mentioned this to my salesman, who once again told me we do indeed have one. He told me the tax for the SRT8 was $1200. This got me to thinking that perhaps it's a province to province tax and after searching around that seems to be the case.

The tax is dependant on the Highway Fuel Use Ratings (Litres / 100 Km) and is broken into seven categories. This tax has been in effect since 1992. Click here to see the table. I was shocked to see that it goes all the way up to $7000. It does not apply to trucks (thank God) but does to SUV's.

I'm not happy to read about this, but I understand I guess. It's probably something to do with Ontario having the most cars per capita or the most dense (not the other meaning :) ) population or something along those lines. I'd be interested to see if any other provinces have this tax, but I can't be bothered to search it out so I'll just pay it like a good citizen.

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My fellow Canadians: (Spoken by Lester B Rambit) :D

A short time ago the topic of Canadian Gas Guzzler Tax came up in another unrelated thread. As I recall Mickyjohn and someone from BC said we didn't have one and I was fine with that. :)

I was at the dealership today & I mentioned this to my salesman, who once again told me we do indeed have one. He told me the tax for the SRT8 was $1200. This got me to thinking that perhaps it's a province to province tax and after searching around that seems to be the case.

The tax is dependant on the Highway Fuel Use Ratings (Litres / 100 Km) and is broken into seven categories. This tax has been in effect since 1992. Click here to see the table. I was shocked to see that it goes all the way up to $7000. It does not apply to trucks (thank God) but does to SUV's.

I'm not happy to read about this, but I understand I guess. It's probably something to do with Ontario having the most cars per capita or the most dense (not the other meaning :) ) population or something along those lines. I'd be interested to see if any other provinces have this tax, but I can't be bothered to search it out so I'll just pay it like a good citizen.

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Hmmm... not sure I understand the point of your whining.. you're buying a gas-guzzling car so why are you crying you're paying a gas-guzzler tax? As long as you live in free countries like america or (to a lesser extent) canada, you're going to be paying a gas guzzler tax for your gas guzzling automobile...

its just reality...
Joe - This is dangerous ground to tread upon. You have just witnessed a rarity in Canadian culture - your neighbours to the north showing any emotion or negative reaction to taxes.

Let me set the record straight. This is an abberation. 99% of Canadians never complain about taxes. Perhaps a couple dissenters have wandered into this forum. They are not typical of true blue Canadians.

Joe - make no mistake - Canadians are okay with taxes. We like taxes. In fact, the average Canadian household now gives over 54% of its gross income to different levels of government. We have more public servants per capita than any other country - except for north Korea and Cuba.

We like it this way. We really believe that our government will look after every little problem. In fact, about half of our population receive a significant portion of our income from some level of government.

We don't believe for a minute that governments have no money. Or that they only tax on the profits of private sector profits. Heck, our governments run lotteries, casinos and sell all the booze. And if that ain't enough, our leaders just ask for an advance,

Now, mind you, we've had to cut back on a few minor things to meet the public service payroll. We no longer bother with military spending, capital projects like roads, sewers and water filtration. We aren't too interested in border security, hospitals, medical equipment, transportation safety standards, research and development, law enforcement, etc. No siree, today's government worker is an admin exec. with a great union plan, nice brief case and gov't issued laptop.

We do welcome all newcomers to the country - no questions asked. Get off a plane with no ID and declare refugee status - that's it. Get free accomodation, medical care, eye care, prescription drugs and monthly cash to boot - no problem. It will take 3 years to process your claim and if you lose, you can appeal for another 5 or 6 years. And, you can sponsor friends and family into our country, while in this status (I believe it is called "illegal alien" in the US.).

I could go on - but I hope you get the point - Joe. When it comes to taxes, unless you come from here - don't go there. You'll just hurt your brain.

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joeSRT8 said:
Hmmm... not sure I understand the point of your whining.. you're buying a gas-guzzling car so why are you crying you're paying a gas-guzzler tax? As long as you live in free countries like america or (to a lesser extent) canada, you're going to be paying a gas guzzler tax for your gas guzzling automobile...

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Joe:

You misunderstand the purpose of my post. I'm not "whining" or "crying" in the least. When you use words such as this, I have the feeling your intention is to envoke hostility towards me for whatever hidden adgenda you have. You make absolutly no meaningful point in your comments. This is a dead issue and was meant as informative, nothing more. Why do people like you have the need to nit-pick every post?

Yes I fully understand why this tax exists. As I mentioned, this topic came up in an unrelated discussion between members from different provinces a while ago. There was a little confusion if it really existed or not. All I did was clarify the issue. I'm just happy in my province that my truck is exempt, otherwise I'd be in the $7000 GGT range! If I were complaining, I'd probably best be looking at a Smart car. I can afford to pay this tax and accept it as such. This tax used to be called a luxury tax.

If you go back and read my entire post, I think this will become evident. Nobody leaps for joy over taxes, but we do the proper thing and pay them. In my business, it would be tempting to pay my employees under the table, thereby avoiding CPP, EI & WSIB payments, but I don't because I run an honest family business. I can at least sleep at night not having to worry if I'll be audited. In fact I was audited several years ago and although scary, came out with flying colours.

I have no idea if your an American or Canadian as you don't indicate this but, either way it doesn't really matter as we all have taxes in one form or another and we pay them. Those who don't think they have taxes should examine in region to region if their tax is just hidden in other goods and services. For example in some provinces every drink you buy goes to pay for roads.

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Iam complaining about taxes because i just happen to fall in the highest taxed demographic "single male no dependents and a good job" and for this I have no claim. but some body who has no job 8 kids and gambles away most of there government check and drink and smoke the rest away, not only will the government just give them the more money but ask for nothing in return. I know this might make me sound a bit bitter but iam tired of paying out for the what I beleave to be a responsiable lifestyle.
getting back to the original topic it seems that why not impose more taxes just because people can afford them especialy when one works damb hard to get ahead .Its not rite! :mad: :mad:
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joeSRT8 said:
Hmmm... not sure I understand the point of your whining.. you're buying a gas-guzzling car so why are you crying you're paying a gas-guzzler tax? As long as you live in free countries like america or (to a lesser extent) canada, you're going to be paying a gas guzzler tax for your gas guzzling automobile...

its just reality...
I've already responded to your abrasive and cutting reply, however after reading it again, I notice you refer to Canada (My country), to be less free than yours. Would you care to elaborate on this? By your comments in various other threads, it's my impression that the picture of the "pussy" doesn't reflect your true feelings. Perhaps you have an image of a "shark" that may be better suited? Mine is of a happy go lucky dog. :)

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baaahahah...man it dosent matter what site i go to if i scroll long enough ill find sum dumbazz chit like this..i think its so funny how everybody has his or her own opinion..and try's to shove it down someone elses throat..and for that dude talking about free health care in canada..baaahahaha..thats why you all come down here to get good medical help.you go in for a tonsil removal and you leave with one less lymb.go figure?..man i realy do feel for you guyz paying 50% of your wages to the gov..I for one would never want to deal with something like that..but if thats all you know then i guess its great..
 

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4herb2tas0tik said:
baaahahah...man it dosent matter what site i go to if i scroll long enough ill find sum dumbazz chit like this..i think its so funny how everybody has his or her own opinion..and try's to shove it down someone elses throat..and for that dude talking about free health care in canada..baaahahaha..thats why you all come down here to get good medical help.you go in for a tonsil removal and you leave with one less lymb.go figure?..man i realy do feel for you guyz paying 50% of your wages to the gov..I for one would never want to deal with something like that..but if thats all you know then i guess its great..
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Help Simon. This one's for you to examine for any faults you may find gramatically. I'm sure there may some errors in it somewhere. What the hell does dumbazz chit like this.. mean? Is it bad? Is it fatal? More importantly is it contageous?

Well, our health care may not be up to par with yours, but judging from the above gobbly-goop, our education system is light years ahead of yours. You've just wasted your government educational tax dollars, assuming you bothered to get up in time for school that is.

You really should put that nasty, wacky tabaccy down for a while. Please don't tell me you're the CEO of Enron.

Remember, dope makes you dopey and only dopes do dope.

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lmaooo...man gotta love it..:-{} o O o oO
 

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4herb2tas0tik said:
baaahahah...man it dosent matter what site i go to if i scroll long enough ill find sum dumbazz chit like this..i think its so funny how everybody has his or her own opinion..and try's to shove it down someone elses throat..and for that dude talking about free health care in canada..baaahahaha..thats why you all come down here to get good medical help.you go in for a tonsil removal and you leave with one less lymb.go figure?..man i realy do feel for you guyz paying 50% of your wages to the gov..I for one would never want to deal with something like that..but if thats all you know then i guess its great..


Uh, now ya gone done it up in here and piast the Canadians off, biiiaaatch.

can't we all just get along :cool:
 

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usually i juss sit back and say nadda...lmaoo....but for some reason i felt like trolling..my bad..:-{} O o oOo..>>>passes..dont take it personal..
 

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uh, now ya gone done it up in here and piast the candians off biiiaaatch
OMG, I hope not! :eek:

Last time that happened back in 1814, we had to send a brigade down south and . . . well, the rest is history:











Washington Burns
1814




Main facts:

British navy sails up Potomac, easily captures and burns U.S. capital.

President Madison and wife Dolley barely escape.






British sea power made it easy to sail a whole army within 60 miles of D.C.








British naval commander, George Cockburn, (Coburn) enjoyed burning things – destroyed three Maryland towns on the road to D.C.





His soldiers were vets from the war against Napoleon – easily overcame the local militia and marched into the capital.





Dolley Madison refused to leave until she rescued a portrait of George Washington and a copy of the Declaration of Independence.







British burned every government building.





Cockburn led his men into the House of Representatives and held a mock vote about whether to burn the Congress. The men approved.


British used "Congreve rockets" in battle to scare the enemy. The rockets never hit anything, but they streaked overhead with a loud noise and looked very impressive.







 
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