I agree with that completely. I had a set installed on a PT Cruiser. The traction was waaaay better than the stock Goodyear Eagles. However, the noise/harshness caused me to get rid of them prematurely.Very good in the rain due to the tread design. Originally were sold with an 80 or 90,000 mile warranty most lasted no more than 50,000. Customers loved the traction while they lasted but were unhappy with short life and noise.