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The system consists of:
DDX-8017 double din Head Unit
KNA-DV4100 Nav unit
KCA-IP500 iPod adapter
DLS Iridium 6.3 3-way components in front
MB Quart RCE-269 6x9's in rear deck
10" sub in box built in rear deck
JL Audio 300/4 (for front components)
JL Audio 500/1 (sub)
Zapco Reference 200 (for rear deck components)
Acelle rear view camera

DDX-8017:
The head unit has a 7" touch screen and the picture quality playing DVD's is outstanding.. very detailed and bright. Only with direct sunlight on the screen did it ever get hard to read. One nice aesthetic thing is that you can choose between red & green lighting on the buttons, the green matches well with the dash lights. The menus are relatively intuitive but there are a million of them and a another million ways of tweaking the sound, crossover points, parametric EQ's, simulated surround etc. You can save your settings you can return to good sound after you jack it all up seeing what all the options do. Sound quality is very warm and clean (the DLS speakers are phenomenal) and I am getting very well balanced tone through the entire volume range which is nice.
Pro: Awesome sound, tons of functions, nice screen
Con: no steering wheel control until adapter is released.

KNA-DV4100 Nav unit:
Separate from the head unit & mounted under the pass front seat (I think.. haven't looked but that's where we talked about) so you don't have to swap DVD's in the head unit. The big issue with this unit was trying to get a signal out of the speed pulse wire (or VSS vehicle speed sensor) in the car that the nav unit would work with. Long story short.. it just don't like it. We had to proceed after trying several aftermarket options without hooking it up at all. My installer called around and there should be a CANBUS friendly harness out by the "end of the year" which will eliminate the following problems...

Since the nav unit is not getting a signal from the vss wire it never thinks the car is moving. I can input a destination and the nav will calculate and highlight the route but I don't get the list of directions or time left in the trip and if I go off the route it doesn't recalculate a new path (this is because it thinks the car has not started moving). The gps correctly places the car icon on the map and since I am not a total idiot I can just follow the highlighted route on the map to get where I am going until the right harness is available.

The touch screen head unit really makes it easy to scroll around the map and choosing routing options etc is all very easy and quick... even if I go way off course I can sort of work around the 'recalculate route' thing by pressing the screen & choosing where my car icon is as a new starting point and get the directions from there. My biggest complaint is that since it doesn't think you're moving it doesn't give you the list of text directions in split screen with the map. Again.. all these issues should be resolved when the proper canbus harness/interface becomes available..
Pro: Easy to use, good features
Con: Not fully compatible with our cars yet!

KCA-iP500 iPod adapter
One good point, the sound quality through the dock connector is far superior to the headphone output. Other than that it pretty much blows. Navigating the menus is completely non-intuitive and the menus are LIMITED TO 10 LIST ITEMS! not really enough to list 332 artists or 442 albums or even a measly 20 playlists. I have 35 gigs of music at my fingertips an no way to access it except skipping ahead one track at a time! It's just obnoxious that they would even release something with that limited useability.
Pro: better sound quality than headphone jack
Con: interface sucks

In the pics below you'll see the head unit & a couple of the ipod 10 list menus, close-up view of the wall i'm parked against from the rear view cam, the amps & the box too.
 

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Nice set up. I have that deck in my truck and wanted to put it the 300 but the wife would kill me if I lost the steering wheel controls.
So I went with:
Stock Head unit
JL Cleansweep
JL 300/4
JL 500/1
Kenwood X6900 6x9 in the deck and doors
Memphis 15-PRC3 3.5 in the dash
M10IB5-4 10" infinite-baffle Sub (marine speaker)
 

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Fine system, Looks great

PixelPusher said:
DDX-8017 double din Head Unit
KNA-DV4100 Nav unit
KCA-iP500 iPod adapter
One good point, the sound quality through the dock connector is far superior to the headphone output. Other than that it pretty much blows. Navigating the menus is completely non-intuitive and the menus are LIMITED TO 10 LIST ITEMS! not really enough to list 332 artists or 442 albums or even a measly 20 playlists. I have 35 gigs of music at my fingertips an no way to access it except skipping ahead one track at a time! It's just obnoxious that they would even release something with that limited useability.
Pro: better sound quality than headphone jack
Con: interface sucks

Hey PixelPusher, Looks great, I mean it.
I'm disappointed with the Ipod interface too. I may add Sat Radio until someone makes some improvements in the interface. Keep us up to date if you come accross a better Kenwood to Ipod setup. I will do the same.
Thanks again for the Pics.
 

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FYI, I believe that you can pick up a speed signal at the rear axle that will work, a wire back there does give a speed pulse signal back there if I remember correctly.. Someone was talking about this before...

Let me peek in my service manual.

Hmmm, okay... Looks like the output speed sensor has 2 wires, DG/BR & DG/VT. If you can pick that signal up, I think you'd be okay.. If you need to know where this is located let me know, but it appears its on the transmission, not the rear end. Says it's on the right side of the transmission and has a black 2 pin connector. There's an output speed sensor as well that is farther back on the transmission (Farthest from the engine)

Anyways, might want to give it a quick shot and see if it gets you anything...
 

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yeah my guy tried both places and one made the nav unit crazier than the other. He also tried 2 different kinds of after market speed sensors and they didn't work well with the kenwood either..


HaTaX said:
FYI, I believe that you can pick up a speed signal at the rear axle that will work, a wire back there does give a speed pulse signal back there if I remember correctly.. Someone was talking about this before...

Let me peek in my service manual.

Hmmm, okay... Looks like the output speed sensor has 2 wires, DG/BR & DG/VT. If you can pick that signal up, I think you'd be okay.. If you need to know where this is located let me know, but it appears its on the transmission, not the rear end. Says it's on the right side of the transmission and has a black 2 pin connector. There's an output speed sensor as well that is farther back on the transmission (Farthest from the engine)

Anyways, might want to give it a quick shot and see if it gets you anything...
 

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rear view cam

Hey Pusher, thats a nice st up! Looks like the rear view cam is quite good- clarity, contrast, and angle of view- How much is that camera cost wise? Did it come as part of the package? Is it a "flush mount"? Do you have any opinions on other rear view cams (if you researched them before settling on the accelle) such as the one on the license plate by Farenheit/Power Akoustik? Any and all information would be much appreciated!

Happy listening :)

Jay
 

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The camera was in the $150 ish range i think. it has a small bezel around it but is pretty inconspicuous. I will take a pic tonight if it's not too dark when i get home. I didn't do much research on the cameras I just take the advice of my audio guy. The picture is VERY clear and it picks up a ton of color info even in low light. Sorry I don't have more info!


jaydee said:
Hey Pusher, thats a nice st up! Looks like the rear view cam is quite good- clarity, contrast, and angle of view- How much is that camera cost wise? Did it come as part of the package? Is it a "flush mount"? Do you have any opinions on other rear view cams (if you researched them before settling on the accelle) such as the one on the license plate by Farenheit/Power Akoustik? Any and all information would be much appreciated!

Happy listening :)

Jay
 

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Speaking of too high, not to hijack your thread, but is it legal to cut a 1 3/8" hole in the license plate and mount it in there? Hmmmmmm, the view would be much better...
 

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Regarding the iPod interface and the limit of 10 songs: I had this same problem on my similiar setup. This can be easily fixed!!! Your installer did not change a key setting on the ipod controller. There's 2 switches on this controller, one of which limits the output to 10 disks at a time for older Kenwood head units. The 8017/7017 can handle up to 255 disks at a time; you should have switch #1 on the interface box in the down position and switch #2 in the up position. Bingo, you now get 255 disks in your list! More on this at the following link

http://www.kenwood.com/i/kca-ip500/table/eng.html

Also note that the documentation is poor for this unit, but it is functional and works fine. The "seek" button switches the disk-menu lists between playlist, artist, album, and genre respecitvely. Just hit seek until album or artist pops up, then go to >menu then >disk list, and you'll get an alphabetical list of up to 255 artists or albums. Works great!

Hope this helps you, I had the same frustration and thought the unit completely worthless until I discovered this fix. And shame on the installers that don't understand these things and cripple the funcitionalliy of these units.

Joe M.
 

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snoop911 said:
is it possible to change the color of the buttons from red to something else if it is HOW ???? hope someone knows thanks !!!!

I am not sure if yours is the same functions as mine (I have the 6017). When you are on the main page there is a key on screen that says set up. Then go to the button that says user setup (I am doing this without looking at the keys, so I will confirm on the way home from work). There is a choice to change the wallpaper, and some other things. At the bottom there is a page one and page two. Mine is on page two. I can hit a soft key to switch from green to red or whatever...
 

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I am not sure if yours is the same functions as mine (I have the 6017). When you are on the main page there is a key on screen that says set up. Then go to the button that says user setup (I am doing this without looking at the keys, so I will confirm on the way home from work). There is a choice to change the wallpaper, and some other things. At the bottom there is a page one and page two. Mine is on page two. I can hit a soft key to switch from green to red or whatever...
I am going to go try it lets see !!!!
 
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