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We have finished up the testing on our Koni Sport Dampers with both OEM coil springs and Eibach lowering Coil springs and its is a VERY HUGE improvement over the stock shocks.

These are not available anywhere else and Koni is not planning on producing this line and releasing out to the public.

These feature a slightly shorter compressed height so you won't be damaging them by running the lowering coil spring along with fully adjustable rebound damping to help smooth out that ride.

We are offering them to the forum members at $800 shipped inside the U.S




Here is FAQ on Koni


Q: What is the difference between KONI Special (red) and KONI Sport (yellow)?

A: The KONI Special (red) has been engineered to maximize the ride comfort with good handling performance for each vehicle application. The KONI Sport (yellow) typically starts at a higher initial valving baseline to give a sportier feel and work on vehicles with higher performance parts. In some instances, KONI will only offer a Special or Sport valving and not both. Some modern cars come from the factory with higher tech suspension systems and wheel/tire packages so they would move directly into the Sport range, however they are still valved to give a comfortable ride with very good handling capabilities.


Q: How much stiffer are KONIs than factory shocks?

A: This is a difficult question to answer because every KONI application is developed for that specific vehicle to get the best handling characteristics. In general, most factory shocks are under damped for optimized handling so KONI engineers select firmer valvings. Unfortunately factory shocks are generally chosen for financial reasons rather than performance so lower technology, cheaper shocks are standard. In some instances, a factory shock may have good characteristics in some parts of the working range but need some help in other parts and there are even a few instances where the KONI engineers found better handling by softening the factory units.


Q: What is the best adjustment setting for my shocks?

A: There is no single best adjustment setting for your KONIs because every driver has different preferences for comfort, performance, performance modifications and roads to drive on. For most vehicles, we suggest that new KONIs be installed in the full soft position. (the standard setting right out of the box) to take advantage of the balance of ride comfort and handling designed by the KONI ride development engineers. If the car has performance upgrades (springs, wheel/tire packages, etc.) or the driver wants the car a bit more aggressive, most people find the optimum setting in the 1/2 to one full turn from the full soft range. Over the extended life of the damper or if the driver wants a specific firm handling characteristic, the dampers can be adjusted up higher. Very rarely will KONI ever need to be adjusted to the full firm setting.


Q: What are the best springs to match my KONIs.

A: One of the great advantages of KONI adjustable shocks is that there is no specific spring for matching optimum performance. Instead you can adjust your KONIs to match your springs. Most performance springs have a higher spring rate than the vehicle's original springs. Since the shock controls the motion of the spring, increased spring rates require more rebound damping for control and that is one of the reasons why KONIs are rebound adjustable (and some are double adjustable). Using higher rate springs with OE or soft shocks will very quickly overcome and wear out the shocks. The KONI adjustment range is typically about 100% (twice as firm at the full firm settings at the full soft setting) to allow for proper damping of OE springs and high rate performance springs.


Q: How far can I safely lower my car?

A: KONIs are designed to fit standard height cars and can work with lowered cars as long as they don't bottom out internally and become damaged. Unlike some shocks, KONIs are not position sensitive so they will work properly anywhere in their stroke range providing they are not bottoming or topping out. Different vehicle suspension designs have different stroke travels but a good rule of thumb is that most vehicles can be lowered acceptably about 1 1/2 inches, beyond that the possibility of bottoming increases rapidly although some longer stroke cars can go lower. Most vehicles are equipped with bump stops to keep the shocks and springs from bottoming out. When lowering a vehicle be sure to reuse your bump stops as they are cheap insurance to avoid bottoming damage. Remember also that severely lowered vehicles typically also have a negative effect on suspension geometry, ride quality and handling, and tire and suspension part wear.


Q: KONI makes some shocks that are not gas shocks. Why?

A: There are basically three types of shock absorber designs: mono-tube high pressure gas, twin-tube low pressure gas and twin tube hydraulic (non-gas). Each of these designs has a certain ride and performance characteristics that can enhance the performance of a vehicle and KONI is the only company that makes three designs. KONI ride development engineers evaluate each new vehicle and can decide which shock design would best apply to that vehicle. Some cars respond to mono-tubes, some like gas pressurized and others don't. Most shock companies utilize only one or two of these style because it is less expensive for manufacturing but are therefore limited in design capability and function.


Q: I want to lower my car with a coil-over sleeve kit. How do I setup my vehicle with KONIs and coil-over sleeves?

A: There are many coil-over sleeve systems on the market but the key is to get ones that will fit the KONI damper properly. Most of these are built to fit over a large number of aftermarket shock absorber brands but this means many will not really fit well. KONI is unique in that some applications feature an adjustable spring seat mounted on a circlip on the shock body. This circlip design is extremely strong when it is loaded properly and the circlip is captured so that it cannot be forced open. However if the mounting on the circlip is unevenly loaded or not properly captured allowing the circlip to increase in diameter from load or impact, you have a potentially dangerous situation where damage could occur. With proper installation and loading, the circlip system allows for great strength and ride height adjustability at the same time. Additionally, when selecting and installing your coil-over system, care should be taken to avoid allowing the springs to coil bind (compressing the spring down to a solid state) during usage as this can risk bottoming and damage. A proper length bump rubber should be used to keep the spring from coil binding and the shocks from bottoming internally. You should contact the dealer or the manufacture of the coil-over system and get any necessary adapter rings necessary to mount the sleeve system to the KONI.

Q: Why are some KONI shocks not externally adjustable?

A: Whenever possible, we try to have the application be externally adjustable so that they can be easily adjusted on the car. In some cases this is not possible due to design constraints imposed by the vehicle. Some cars have no way to physically access an adjuster on the car or have mounts that prohibit an adjustable shock. In these cases, the shocks are still adjustable but must be removed from the car to do so.


Q: What's the difference between the standard KONI shocks and those in the Threaded Suspension Kits and the RSK kits?

A: The dampers in Threaded Suspension Kits are based on KONI Sport shocks but have been made specifically for the elements of the kits. Depending on the applications, some have different maximum or minimum lengths and valvings to specifically match the springs and lowering goals of the kits. Most are plated and threaded bodies and some are tight steel sleeves on yellow painted shock bodies. The dampers in the RSK kits are based on the red painted KONI Special shocks but they have been specifically valved to work with the kit springs. Additionally they have multiple spring perch grooves in them so the height of the car can be adjusted at the time of installation.


Q: What is the KONI warranty? How do I go about getting replacements?

A: The KONI warranty is a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser against defects in materials and workmanship for as long as you own that car registered for street use. The warranty does not cover damage to the parts caused by misuse, misapplication, installation, motorsports, etc. The warranty does not include mounting bushings. If you determine you have a defective damper you can either contact the company which you purchased the unit(s) from or contact KONI North America directly at [email protected] or 859-586-4100. To process your warranty, we will require a copy of the purchase receipt and a vehicle registration. We will generate a return goods authorization (RGA) and can replace the dampers in advance at your discretion. For more specific information about the warranty see our warranty form.
 

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We have finished up the testing on our Koni Sport Dampers with both OEM coil springs and Eibach lowering Coil springs and its is a VERY HUGE improvement over the stock shocks.

These are not available anywhere else and Koni is not planning on producing this line and releasing out to the public.

These feature a slightly shorter compressed height so you won't be damaging them by running the lowering coil spring along with fully adjustable rebound damping to help smooth out that ride.

We are offering them to the forum members at $800 shipped inside the U.S




Here is FAQ on Koni


Q: What is the difference between KONI Special (red) and KONI Sport (yellow)?

A: The KONI Special (red) has been engineered to maximize the ride comfort with good handling performance for each vehicle application. The KONI Sport (yellow) typically starts at a higher initial valving baseline to give a sportier feel and work on vehicles with higher performance parts. In some instances, KONI will only offer a Special or Sport valving and not both. Some modern cars come from the factory with higher tech suspension systems and wheel/tire packages so they would move directly into the Sport range, however they are still valved to give a comfortable ride with very good handling capabilities.



Q: How much stiffer are KONIs than factory shocks?

A: This is a difficult question to answer because every KONI application is developed for that specific vehicle to get the best handling characteristics. In general, most factory shocks are under damped for optimized handling so KONI engineers select firmer valvings. Unfortunately factory shocks are generally chosen for financial reasons rather than performance so lower technology, cheaper shocks are standard. In some instances, a factory shock may have good characteristics in some parts of the working range but need some help in other parts and there are even a few instances where the KONI engineers found better handling by softening the factory units.



Q: What is the best adjustment setting for my shocks?

A: There is no single best adjustment setting for your KONIs because every driver has different preferences for comfort, performance, performance modifications and roads to drive on. For most vehicles, we suggest that new KONIs be installed in the full soft position. (the standard setting right out of the box) to take advantage of the balance of ride comfort and handling designed by the KONI ride development engineers. If the car has performance upgrades (springs, wheel/tire packages, etc.) or the driver wants the car a bit more aggressive, most people find the optimum setting in the 1/2 to one full turn from the full soft range. Over the extended life of the damper or if the driver wants a specific firm handling characteristic, the dampers can be adjusted up higher. Very rarely will KONI ever need to be adjusted to the full firm setting.



Q: What are the best springs to match my KONIs.

A: One of the great advantages of KONI adjustable shocks is that there is no specific spring for matching optimum performance. Instead you can adjust your KONIs to match your springs. Most performance springs have a higher spring rate than the vehicle's original springs. Since the shock controls the motion of the spring, increased spring rates require more rebound damping for control and that is one of the reasons why KONIs are rebound adjustable (and some are double adjustable). Using higher rate springs with OE or soft shocks will very quickly overcome and wear out the shocks. The KONI adjustment range is typically about 100% (twice as firm at the full firm settings at the full soft setting) to allow for proper damping of OE springs and high rate performance springs.


Q: How far can I safely lower my car?

A:KONIs are designed to fit standard height cars and can work with lowered cars as long as they don't bottom out internally and become damaged. Unlike some shocks, KONIs are not position sensitive so they will work properly anywhere in their stroke range providing they are not bottoming or topping out. Different vehicle suspension designs have different stroke travels but a good rule of thumb is that most vehicles can be lowered acceptably about 1 1/2 inches, beyond that the possibility of bottoming increases rapidly although some longer stroke cars can go lower. Most vehicles are equipped with bump stops to keep the shocks and springs from bottoming out. When lowering a vehicle be sure to reuse your bump stops as they are cheap insurance to avoid bottoming damage. Remember also that severely lowered vehicles typically also have a negative effect on suspension geometry, ride quality and handling, and tire and suspension part wear.



Q: KONI makes some shocks that are not gas shocks. Why?

A: There are basically three types of shock absorber designs: mono-tube high pressure gas, twin-tube low pressure gas and twin tube hydraulic (non-gas). Each of these designs has a certain ride and performance characteristics that can enhance the performance of a vehicle and KONI is the only company that makes three designs. KONI ride development engineers evaluate each new vehicle and can decide which shock design would best apply to that vehicle. Some cars respond to mono-tubes, some like gas pressurized and others don't. Most shock companies utilize only one or two of these style because it is less expensive for manufacturing but are therefore limited in design capability and function.



Q: I want to lower my car with a coil-over sleeve kit. How do I setup my vehicle withKONIs and coil-over sleeves?

A: There are many coil-over sleeve systems on the market but the key is to get ones that will fit the KONI damper properly. Most of these are built to fit over a large number of aftermarket shock absorber brands but this means many will not really fit well. KONI is unique in that some applications feature an adjustable spring seat mounted on a circlip on the shock body. This circlip design is extremely strong when it is loaded properly and the circlip is captured so that it cannot be forced open. However if the mounting on the circlip is unevenly loaded or not properly captured allowing the circlip to increase in diameter from load or impact, you have a potentially dangerous situation where damage could occur. With proper installation and loading, the circlip system allows for great strength and ride height adjustability at the same time. Additionally, when selecting and installing your coil-over system, care should be taken to avoid allowing the springs to coil bind (compressing the spring down to a solid state) during usage as this can risk bottoming and damage. A proper length bump rubber should be used to keep the spring from coil binding and the shocks from bottoming internally. You should contact the dealer or the manufacture of the coil-over system and get any necessary adapter rings necessary to mount the sleeve system to the KONI.


Q: Why are some KONI shocks not externally adjustable?

A: Whenever possible, we try to have the application be externally adjustable so that they can be easily adjusted on the car. In some cases this is not possible due to design constraints imposed by the vehicle. Some cars have no way to physically access an adjuster on the car or have mounts that prohibit an adjustable shock. In these cases, the shocks are still adjustable but must be removed from the car to do so.



Q: What's the difference between the standardKONI shocks and those in the Threaded Suspension Kits and the RSK kits?

A:The dampers in Threaded Suspension Kits are based on KONI Sport shocks but have been made specifically for the elements of the kits. Depending on the applications, some have different maximum or minimum lengths and valvings to specifically match the springs and lowering goals of the kits. Most are plated and threaded bodies and some are tight steel sleeves on yellow painted shock bodies. The dampers in the RSK kits are based on the red painted KONI Special shocks but they have been specifically valved to work with the kit springs. Additionally they have multiple spring perch grooves in them so the height of the car can be adjusted at the time of installation.



Q: What is the KONI warranty? How do I go about getting replacements?

A: The KONI warranty is a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser against defects in materials and workmanship for as long as you own that car registered for street use. The warranty does not cover damage to the parts caused by misuse, misapplication, installation, motorsports, etc. The warranty does not include mounting bushings. If you determine you have a defective damper you can either contact the company which you purchased the unit(s) from or contact KONI North America directly at [email protected] or 859-586-4100. To process your warranty, we will require a copy of the purchase receipt and a vehicle registration. We will generate a return goods authorization (RGA) and can replace the dampers in advance at your discretion. For more specific information about the warranty see our warranty form.
These shocks look like missing something ? The dust covers that you find on all shocks are removed from these ? Why ?
 

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In the rear end your stockers are reused. Up front the dust covers are part of the upper mount and reused as well.



Zach freel free to chime in and correct me if I am wrong.
 

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These shocks look like missing something ? The dust covers that you find on all shocks are removed from these ? Why ?

There in the picture its setup for our bags to slide right over them. For the spring applications we have a bracket that slides over the shock and sits ontop of the ring that is welded in there for the spring to sit onto. For the dust covers, bump stops etc you reuse all the parts off the OE suspension.

These are designed to be a direct replacement of the OE shocks. Everything else stays the same.
 

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They definately give you a WIDE range of adjustment. I started driving on mine at the stiffest rebound setting and it was pretty rough. I recently cranked them to the softest setting and that is where I am happy as the ride is the smoothest as well as consistent throughout the range of travel. Stock shocks and struts would have been pushed to their limits in that range of travel and you would see different rebound rates and different heights.
 

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Will these work with KW V1 and will it soften the ride?
The Koni's would be replacing out the KW coilovers. You could use our koni struts with a set of OE springs, or a lowering spring. As far as softening up the ride. That will be determined by the spring that you put on it. The compression on the shocks is very soft, and the rebound is adjustable so you can tune it to what you like (like how the V2's are adjustable rebound)
 

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any suggestions for a quality set of springs that would give a smooth ride based on your knowledge?
 

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any suggestions for a quality set of springs that would give a smooth ride based on your knowledge?
Its all upto what you would like to do. The softest ride, of course is going to be the OEM springs. They are very soft. If you would like to have it lowered down, i would suggest a good quality lowering spring like an eibach or something along those lines.

The nice thing about the adjustables. Your able to tune in to adjust for a stiffer spring.
 

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for the pedders parts following these Koni red's would work?
  • 2940 LX Front Lower Coil 50mm drop
  • 2981 LX Rear Lowered Coil 2
  • EP2113 LX Bump Steer Correction Kit
 

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for the pedders parts following these Koni red's would work?
  • 2940 LX Front Lower Coil 50mm drop
  • 2981 LX Rear Lowered Coil 2
  • EP2113 LX Bump Steer Correction Kit
There is no reason they shouldn't, they are essentially a OEM replacement strut.
 

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i have heard that if lowering shocks are installed it's best to go with a shorter spring/strut. Your opinions?
 
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