[E55 KEV]

30k miles is here - time to tune the 300C Hemi. What else does the dealer do besides changed 18 spark plugs? Also how much? Thanks.

 

[kevenj]

30k miles is here - time to tune the 300C Hemi. What else does the dealer do besides changed 18 spark plugs? Also how much? Thanks.

well according to my maintence log (schedule "B"):

-oil change
-a/c filter (if you have one, I don't)
-engine air filter
-spark plugs (hopefully 16 not 18 :wave: )
-check PCV valve and replace as needed
-check tranny fluid

the rest of it says "inspect exhaust, coolant level, brake hoses, etc"


I'm assuming you know this, But you don't have to go to the dealer for this; you can do it yourself or have any shop do it as long as you keep records.


One question; did your "check engine light" come on when you hit 30k? there was another thread where one came on and the 'diagnosis' was 'bad spark plugs' and there was speculation as to whether the light is somehow triggered to turn on by the odometer. Seems like spark plugs would not suddenly "go bad"....

 

[E55 KEV]

One question; did your "check engine light" come on when you hit 30k? there was another thread where one came on and the 'diagnosis' was 'bad spark plugs' and there was speculation as to whether the light is somehow triggered to turn on by the odometer. Seems like spark plugs would not suddenly "go bad"....

Thanks, but the odometer will turn 30k in a couple weeks. What's the average cost.

BTW, our 300c has 9 cylinders. He-He!

 

[kevenj]

Thanks, but the odometer will turn 30k in a couple weeks. What's the average cost.

BTW, our 300c has 9 cylinders. He-He!

WOW, an SRT-9 maybe?? :banana: :banana:

No clue on the cost; I'd guess about $5 or $6 a plug if you were to buy them at a parts store and do it yourself (they are double platinum's i'm pretty sure) but if you want the dealer to do it normally they will have a set price for scheduled maintenance; you should be able to call the service department and just ask "how much is a 30k service for a 300C"

 

[arnoldw]

WOW, an SRT-9 maybe?? :banana: :banana:

No clue on the cost; I'd guess about $5 or $6 a plug if you were to buy them at a parts store and do it yourself (they are double platinum's i'm pretty sure) but if you want the dealer to do it normally they will have a set price for scheduled maintenance; you should be able to call the service department and just ask "how much is a 30k service for a 300C"

Kev, I'm pretty sure those are regular plugs...that's why they have to be changed so soon. Here's the #from the emissions label, RE14MCC4.
....just found a link....cheap!!
http://www.sparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=re14mcc4&x=55&y=10

 

[BobF]

Kev, I'm pretty sure those are regular plugs...that's why they have to be changed so soon. Here's the #from the emissions label, RE14MCC4.
....just found a link,
http://www.sparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=re14mcc4&x=55&y=10

Go to:
http://www.championsparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=RE14MCC4&x=42&y=9
They are listed as $2.24 ea. I'm sure that's not what the dealer charges though. Regards, Bob.

 

[kevenj]

Go to:
http://www.championsparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=RE14MCC4&x=42&y=9
They are listed as $2.24 ea. I'm sure that's not what the dealer charges though. Regards, Bob.

Well that certainly would explain why they need to be changed at 30k miles when my 15 year old Thunderbird SC had a 75k mile change interval. Now I wonder if there's a reason you can't use double platinums in the 300C or why they didn't from the factory? Any ideas? Do platinums require more voltage to fire or anything like that?

 

[arnoldw]

Well that certainly would explain why they need to be changed at 30k miles when my 15 year old Thunderbird SC had a 75k mile change interval. Now I wonder if there's a reason you can't use double platinums in the 300C or why they didn't from the factory? Any ideas? Do platinums require more voltage to fire or anything like that?

I think they used those plugs to keep costs down. Here's some more listings if you want better plugs.
http://www.sparkplugs.com/results_app.asp?productTypeID=1&AAIA=1430632

 

[RobAGD]

There was a good thread on LXForums about this and I think 2 DOdge mechnics piped in about the issue with plugs. There is a reason, I just dont recall off hand what it is.

-R

 

[kevenj]

Well I'm a long way from needing plugs, I've got 2800 miles on my "C". I've got a good friend who used to be an automotive tech, and a damn good one (got out of it cuz he didn't like dealing with John Q Public) and I remember him telling me it's not a good idea to put platinums or double platinums in a vehicle that did not call for them; He had a very logical sounding explanation but I just don't remember what it was ! Anyway the 30k interval is not so bad now that I know it takes $2 plugs and not $6 plugs.

 

[E55 KEV]

I went to the dealer today and was quoted an $800 price for the "30k Mile Service". Ouch! It included a lot of other stuff like oil change, tranny filter and oil change, tire balance and rotation.

The Service Guy recommended the 2 most important items - the tune-up and the tranny service.

Minor Tune-Up
5.7L 2005 Standard Dual Plugs
Parts
16 plugs, part # CHSPRE14MC-C4, $4.14 each, total $66.24
Labor
3.20 hours @ $92.90 per hour for $297.28
Shop Supplies $29.73
Waste $4.00
Tax $4.80
Total - $402.05:

Service Auto Trans, Major
5.7L 2005 NAG1 5-Speed
Parts
CH52108325-AA Filter $15.88
CH52108332-AA Gasket $18.72
CH5013457-AA Oil Auto Transm $7.00 (6) $42.00
Labor
1.00 hours @ $92.90 per hour for $92.90
Shop Supplies - $9.29
Waste - $4.00
Tax - $4.29
Total - $187.08

 

[Derek33]

do hemis use 2 plugs a cyl?

 

[LWOOD]

Kev, just compain of intermittent shuddering afther "that last big rain" and you'll get the major tranny service free!

 

[kevenj]

do hemis use 2 plugs a cyl?

yes they do

 

[kevenj]

Labor
3.20 hours @ $92.90 per hour

WOW! shop labor rate around here is at most $65.00 an hour - - that's at a dealer... most independents are like $50 an hour. DAMN!

I'll just be buying my own plugs and doing it myself when the time comes. Should run me about $45.00 including the 6 pack.....

 

[MrHappy]

Kev, just compain of intermittent shuddering afther "that last big rain" and you'll get the major tranny service free!

You'd think wouldn't ya? But not my dealer... after a half dozen trips still not doing the flush... waiting for the whole thing to drop now (and from the grinding noises, I don't expect it to be much longer!)

 

[javac]

I went to the dealer today and was quoted an $800 price for the "30k Mile Service". Ouch! It included a lot of other stuff like oil change, tranny filter and oil change, tire balance and rotation.

The Service Guy recommended the 2 most important items - the tune-up and the tranny service.

Minor Tune-Up
5.7L 2005 Standard Dual Plugs
Parts
16 plugs, part # CHSPRE14MC-C4, $4.14 each, total $66.24
Labor
3.20 hours @ $92.90 per hour for $297.28
Shop Supplies $29.73
Waste $4.00
Tax $4.80
Total - $402.05:

Service Auto Trans, Major
5.7L 2005 NAG1 5-Speed
Parts
CH52108325-AA Filter $15.88
CH52108332-AA Gasket $18.72
CH5013457-AA Oil Auto Transm $7.00 (6) $42.00
Labor
1.00 hours @ $92.90 per hour for $92.90
Shop Supplies - $9.29
Waste - $4.00
Tax - $4.29
Total - $187.08

Okay, I have to wonder, what $29+ for shop supplies to change a spark plug could be, especially since the plugs are counted separately.

And, I love that $4 waste charge; I am assuming that means 'waste' $4 of your money.

Supposedly the Chyrsler maintenance plan will cover all of that, except tire balance(and I would get that done somewhere else).

And, I don't have my book handy, but I didn't think you needed the tranny maintenance until 60K(and, I think that was under certain conditions, but I could be wrong on one or both accounts).

At $800, you are better off to save the money and invest it, skip the service, drive the car until it explodes, and by a new one. (okay, I am kidding there....well, mostly kidding).

 

[Buz-CCC]

Javac , you are correct tranny service at 60K but not covered on scheduled maintenance plan tune-up covered rotate tires but not balance

 

[saleensean]

if you're going to change the plugs on your own please use the champion plugs that come in the vehicle. I have seen way too many people putting in other brand plugs that just don't work in these vehicles. They try to save money by buying the cheapest plug that will fit then they have to pay us way more money to find why they have a skip. That skip being other brand plugs.

They end up paying for cheap plugs, then diag time from us, then the correct plugs and labor for us to put them in.

Not worth it.

 

[Lik2race]

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