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My check engine light has been popping on, had my buddy
pull the code; p0130 o2 sensor,

any idea on the cost to fix this? can I put this off awhile
or will it hurt milage or the Cats?

05 29k
 

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From the Service Manual.


P0130-O2 SENSOR 1/1 CIRCUIT OPEN

² When Monitored:
With the ignition on and the O2 1/1 Sensor at operating temperature.
² Set Condition:
The ECM detects an open on the (Z43) O2 1/1 Negative Current Control circuit for 2.0 seconds.

Possible Causes

INTERMITTENT DTC
(Z43) O2 1/1 NEGATIVE CURRENT CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO VOLTAGE
(Z43) O2 1/1 NEGATIVE CURRENT CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO THE (K343) FUSED ASD RELAY
OUTPUT 2 CIRCUIT
(Z43) O2 1/1 NEGATIVE CURRENT CONTROL CIRCUIT OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE
OXYGEN SENSOR
ENGINE CONTROL MODULE (ECM)

Always perform the Pre-Diagnostic Troubleshooting procedure before proceeding. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING)

Diagnostic Test

1. DTC IS ACTIVE
Ignition on, engine not running.
With the scan tool, Clear DTCs in the Engine Control Module (ECM).
Start the engine.
Allow the engine to reach normal operating temperature.
Monitor the scan tool for at least two minutes.
With the scan tool, select View DTCs.
Is the status Active for this DTC?
Yes >> Go To 2
No >> Refer to the *CHECKING FOR AN INTERMITTENT DTC Diagnostic Procedure. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING)

2. (Z43) O2 1/1 NEGATIVE CURRENT CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO VOLTAGE
Turn the ignition off.
Disconnect the Oxygen Sensor connector.
Disconnect the Engine Control Module (ECM) connector.
Remove the ASD Relay from the IPM.
Connect a jumper wire between cavity 30 and cavity 87 of the ASD Relay Connector.
Turn the ignition on.
Measure the voltage of the (Z43) O2 1/1 Negative Current Control circuit
in the Oxygen Sensor connector.
Is there any voltage present?
Yes >> Repair the (Z43) O2 1/1 Negative Current Control circuit for a short to voltage.
Perform the ECM Verification Test Ver. 1. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING)
No >> Go to 3

3. (Z43) O2 1/1 NEGATIVE CURRENT CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO THE (K343) FUSED ASD RELAY OUTPUT 2 CIRCUIT
Turn the ignition off.
Measure the resistance between the (Z43) O2 1/1 Negative Current Control circuit and the (K343) Fused ASD Relay Output 2 circuit in the Oxygen Sensor connector.
Is the resistance above 10.0 ohms?
Yes >> Go to 4
No >> Repair the (Z43) O2 1/1 Negative Current Control circuit for a short to the (K343) Fused ASD Relay Output 2 circuit.
Perform the ECM Verification Test Ver. 1. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING)

4. (Z43) O2 1/1 NEGATIVE CURRENT CONTROL CIRCUIT OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE
Measure the resistance of the (Z43) O2 1/1 Negative Current Control circuit between the Oxygen Sensor connector and the Engine Control Module (ECM) connector.
Is the resistance below 10.0 ohms?
Yes >> Go to 5
No >> Repair the circuit for an open circuit or high resistance.
Perform the ECM Verification Test Ver. 1. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING)

5. OXYGEN SENSOR
Turn the ignition off.
Connect the Engine Control Module (ECM) connector.
Replace the Oxygen Sensor in accordance with the Service Information.
Start the engine.
Allow the engine to reach normal operating temperature.
Monitor the scan tool for at least two minutes.
With the scan tool, select View DTCs.
Is the status Active for this DTC?
Yes >> Go to 6
No >> Test Complete.
Perform the ECM Verification Test Ver. 1. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING)

6. ENGINE CONTROL MODULE (ECM)
Using the wiring diagram/schematic as a guide, inspect the wiring and connectors between the Oxygen Sensor and the Engine Control Module (ECM).
Look for any chafed, pierced, pinched, or partially broken wires.
Look for broken, bent, pushed out or corroded terminals.
Monitor the scan tool data relative to this circuit and wiggle test the wiring and connectors.
Look for the data to change or for the DTC to reset during the wiggle test.
Refer to any Technical Service Bulletins that may apply.
Were any problems found?
Yes >> Repair as necessary.
Perform the ECM Verification Test Ver. 1. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING)
No >> Replace the Engine Control Module (ECM) in accordance with the Service Information.
Perform the ECM Verification Test Ver. 1. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING
 

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It should definitely be covered under your warranty. I read a post a while back that any of the smog equipment is actually covered under a longer warranty period as long as its never been tampered with. I believe the cats have a 50,000 mile warranty, but that's here in CA.
 

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It should definitely be covered under your warranty. I read a post a while back that any of the smog equipment is actually covered under a longer warranty period as long as its never been tampered with. I believe the cats have a 50,000 mile warranty, but that's here in CA.
I am assuming his 2005 is older than 36 months because he asked about the 7/70. After reading through the 2005 Warranty booklet shown below, it looks to me the O2 Sensors are covered under the 36 month warranty. If his car is older than 36 months than the 02's are not covered.

The Cat is covered under the longer 80k warranty.

This Warranty info is confusing and requires careful reading, so I might have missed something.


5. Emission Warranties Required By Law

5.1 Federal Emission Warranty
A. Parts Covered for 2 Years or 24,000 Miles
Federal law requires DaimlerChrysler Motors
Company LLC ("DaimlerChrysler") to warrant the
following emissions parts for 2 years or 24,000
miles, whichever occurs first. DaimlerChrysler
covers all of these parts under the Basic Limited
Warranty for 3 years or 36,000 miles, whichever
occurs first.
• Air system controls;
• distributor and its components;
• electronic fuel injection system, including
injector;
• evaporative-emission canister and controls;
• exhaust manifold;
• exhaust gas recirculation valve and control
system;
• exhaust pipes (between exhaust manifold and
catalyst);
• fuel cap and tank assembly, pump, and fuel
lines;
• ignition coil and ignition module;
• intake manifold;
• on-board diagnostic-system components;
• oxygen sensors;
• positive crankcase-ventilation (PCV) valve or
orifice;
• secondary ignition wires;
• spark plugs;
• throttle body;
• transmission-control module;
• vacuum hoses, clamps, and fittings, as well as
tubing used for these components;
• vacuum, temperature, altitude, speed, timesensitive
valves, sensors, and switches used in these
components and systems.

B. Parts Covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles
If your vehicle has one of the following parts, this
Federal Emission Warranty covers that part for a
period of 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever occurs
first.
These limits are counted from the time when your
Basic Limited Warranty begins under 2.1(E). The
covered parts are:
catalytic converter; and
• powertrain control module.

C. Additional Emission Warranties
If your vehicle is equipped with a California
Certified Emission Control System and is registered
in California, Massachusetts, Maine or Vermont, the
California Emission Warranty — described in
Section 5.3 — also applies.

5.2 Emission Performance Warranty
This warranty supplements the federal warranty
under 5.1. It lasts for 2 years or 24,000 miles on the
odometer, whichever occurs first. If your vehicle has
one of the following parts, catalytic converter and
powertrain control module, this Federal Emission
Warranty covers that part for a period of 8 years or
80,000 miles, whichever occurs first. These limits are
counted from the time when your Basic Limited
Warranty begins under 2.1(E). The Emission Performance
Warranty covers the cost of repairing or
adjusting any components or parts that might be
needed for your vehicle to pass Federal Emission
Standards for a federally approved state or local
emissions test, but only if:
• your vehicle has failed a federally approved state
or local emissions test;
• your vehicle has been maintained and operated
properly up until it fails such a test; and
• you face a real penalty — for example, a fine or
the loss of the use of your vehicle — because the
vehicle has failed the test.
Section 6.3 explains how to get service under this warranty

5.3 California Emission Warranty
Your Warranty Rights and Obligations (Applies
Only to Vehicles Certified for Sale and
Registered in the State of California)
The California Air Resources Board is pleased to
explain the emission control system warranty on your
2005 model vehicle. In California, new motor vehicles
must be designed, built and equipped to meet the
State's stringent anti-smog standards.
DaimlerChrysler Motors Company LLC
("DaimlerChrysler") must warrant the emission
control system on your vehicle for the periods of time
listed below provided there has been no abuse,
neglect or improper maintenance of your vehicle.
Your emission control system may include parts
such as the fuel-injection system, the ignition system,
catalytic converter, and powertrain control module. Also
included may be hoses, belts, connectors and other
emission-related assemblies.
Where a warrantable condition exists, DaimlerChrysler
will repair your vehicle at no cost to you, including
diagnosis, parts and labor.

MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY COVERAGE:
For 3 years or 50,000 miles, whichever first
occurs:

1. If your vehicle fails a Smog Check inspection, all
necessary repairs and adjustments will be made by
DaimlerChrysler to ensure that your vehicle passes the
inspection. This is your emission control system
PERFORMANCE WARRANTY.

2. If any emission-related part on your vehicle is
defective, the part will be repaired or replaced by
DaimlerChrysler. This is your short-term emission
control system DEFECTS WARRANTY.

For 7 years or 70,000 miles, whichever first occurs:
1. If an emission-related part listed in this warranty
booklet specially noted with coverage for 7 years
or 70,000 miles is defective, the part will be
repaired or replaced by DaimlerChrysler. This is your
long-term emission control system DEFECTS
WARRANTY.

Owner's Warranty Responsibilities:
-- As the vehicle owner, you are responsible for the
performance of the required maintenance listed
in your owner's manual. DaimlerChrysler recommends
that you retain all receipts covering maintenance
on your vehicle, but DaimlerChrysler cannot
deny warranty solely for the lack of receipts or for
your failure to ensure the performance of all scheduled
maintenance.
-- You are responsible for presenting your vehicle to a
Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep dealer as soon as a problem
exists. The warranty repairs should be completed in a
reasonable amount of time, not to exceed 30 days.
-- As the vehicle owner, you should also be aware that
DaimlerChrysler may deny your warranty coverage if
your vehicle or a part has failed due to abuse,
neglect, improper maintenance or unapproved
modifications.
If you have any questions regarding your warranty rights
and responsibilities, you should contact the
DaimlerChrysler National Customer Relations at (800) 992-
1997 or the California Air Resources Board at PO Box
8001, El Monte, CA 91734-8001.

A. Parts and Performance Covered for 3 Years
or 50,000 Miles, Whichever Occurs First
California law requires DaimlerChrysler to warrant that
if any emission-related part on your vehicle is defective,
DaimlerChrysler will repair or replace the part.

The repair or replacement will be made at no
charge to you for diagnosis, parts or labor. Any other
parts damaged by the failure of a defective part will also be
repaired or replaced.
In addition, if your vehicle fails a smog check inspection,
DaimlerChrysler will make all necessary repairs and
adjustments to ensure that your vehicle passes the
inspection.
Your emission control system may include parts such as
the fuel injection system, ignition system, catalytic converter
and powertrain control module. Also included may
be hoses, belts, connectors and other emission-related
assemblies.


B. Parts Covered for 7 Years or 70,000 Miles,
Whichever Occurs First

DaimlerChrysler also warrants that every part listed
below — if installed as original equipment — is free
from defects. These parts are:
• fuel pump module
• fuel tank
• intake manifold
Where parts are scheduled for replacement as
required maintenance, this warranty applies until the
first scheduled maintenance point listed in the
owner's manual.

C. Parts Covered for 8 Years or 80,000 Miles,
Whichever Occurs First

(See Federal Emission Warranty 5.1.B.)
• Catalytic Converter
• Powertrain Control Module

D. Getting Service Under This Warranty
Section 6.4 explains how to get service under this
warranty.
 

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Discussion Starter #12 (Edited)
I am going to take a stab at fixing this,

anyone have a pic or a pdf of the location of this o2 sensor

also what is the part number,

thanks for any help
 

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Discussion Starter #14 (Edited)
had my car in the shop for brake work today, I was going to get the sensor replaced also , my shop said Allprodata claims it's now a recall item and the waranty is extended to 6/60k on the o2 sensors

anyone have any info on this, otherwise I plan to just buy one at napa and change the dam thing myself
 

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Discussion Starter #15
called the dealer, "not covered"

I need a part number Code is P0130

I think it the left o2 sensor after the cat I can see it and get at it just need a memeber to confirm priced a few
only 40 bucks its DIY for sure, i have a super chip to clear the code

thanks for any info
 
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