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I searched, but can't find the data, and I don't have my manual with me. How many quarts of oil do I need for an oil change? My service center (like most) doesn't stock 0W-40, so I need to tell them how much to have.

Does anyone know off hand - or can someone check the manual?

Thanks guys.

(this is for the 6.1L SRT-8)
 

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JMatt, it's 7qts. for the C, I would imagine it's the same for the SRT... but can't say for sure
 

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Per "Rambit's first oil change" post here... yes, the magic number is 7
 

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Yes it's seven, just changed it on Sunday. The oil is ow40 Mobil 1 synthetic filter # is m1204. You can also use pure one #L14670 which is what I used. I saved the old filter it says factory installed on the bottom, yes I'm obsessing.

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Thanks Hemee! I knew that info was out there. Rambitt says 7 liters though. Is that close enough that it still means 7 quarts? 7 liters is about 7.4 quarts. I'd assume the specification is for 7 either way.
 

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JMatt said:
Thanks Hemee! I knew that info was out there. Rambitt says 7 liters though. Is that close enough that it still means 7 quarts? 7 liters is about 7.4 quarts. I'd assume the specification is for 7 either way.
It's essentially the same... 7 qts. it is!
BTW, my Dealer carries this oil now, you might want to check again with yours.
 

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amant said:
Yes it's seven, just changed it on Sunday. The oil is ow40 Mobil 1 synthetic filter # is m1204. You can also use pure one #L14670 which is what I used. I saved the old filter it says factory installed on the bottom, yes I'm obsessing.

amnat
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Good point Amant. I too plan on saving the original "factory installed" oil filter. I think I currently have one of the most documented SRT-8's possible.

Here's some of the data I've gathered from various sources:

Overall build number: 54th
In-service rank: 13th
USA In-service rank: 12th
Build dates, and build times
All original papers, including factory printouts
Window sticker
Copies of all brochures
Original dealer order
follow-up documents mailed by Chrsyler, including surveys and owner magazine.
Chassis dyno results with about 1000 miles (will add another this fall when it gets cold out)
Signatures in engine bay from line workers at assembly plant

Other stuff in the file I'm sure I'm forgetting.

(and thanks to those of you who helped me assemble this data - you know who you are!)
 

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SRT8itchy said:
Does it still take 7 if you switch to Amsoil 10W-30?

(Sorry. I just couldn't resist in an oil discussion). :biggrin:
Bad boy!!!! Very very bad!!! :spank:
 

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I used amsoil in the past but quit last year when I found sludge (a lot of sludge)in the intake manifolds of both my 96 Impala and my 98 Chevy truck (bought both new). I was useing the 30,000 mile stuff they sell and changed the oil twice a year which came out to about 8,000 to 10,000 miles per/change I hope moble 1 is better in terms of sludge.

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amant said:
I used amsoil in the past but quit last year when I found sludge (a lot of sludge)in the intake manifolds of both my 96 Impala and my 98 Chevy truck (bought both new). I was useing the 30,000 mile stuff they sell and changed the oil twice a year which came out to about 8,000 to 10,000 miles per/change I hope moble 1 is better in terms of sludge.

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How did sludge get into the manifold? Or did you remove the manifold and sludge was below the manifold in the lifter gallery?
 

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Exactly; It was in the lifter galley I had also pulled off the valve covers and there was sludge there also. In defense of the Impala My wife did not drive more then at most 7 miles to work everyday so the sludge build up could have been from moisture on top of the manifold that did not evaporate out and then accumulated in the galley, but that did not explain the truck which was driven much further and therefore was operating fully warmed up. I think if the oil had been changed on a regular 2000 mile schedule I would not have had a problem so I quit using the oil which I had been using for the past 15 years and went back to conventional oil and I change it every 2000 miles which is a pain when you are used to changing your own oil but I'm not willing to pay top dollar for oil that doesn't appear to last any longer then regular oil.

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Every 2000 miles sounds excessive and a waste of time, money, and oil.
 

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Hey jMatt, I saved all that stuff too, except for the old oil filter. Just never occured to me. Hemeee's already answered your question on this, but 1 litre is essentially the same as one US quart. Before we went metric our quarts were larger. When I had my first oil change I personally watched the guy put the oil in. He used all 7 litres and when he checked the dipstick it was exactly on the full line.

I just learned yesterday while doing a little research on oil from another thread that the blackness of the oil is of no concern. Apparently it's just suspended carbon that gives it the black look, or so they say. I also found out that most of Amsoil's oil does not meet API guidelines. I have no idea what that means, but then again it doesn't matter cuz I'm sticking with the Mobile 1 anyway.

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jjs said:
Every 2000 miles sounds excessive and a waste of time, money, and oil.
I'm at 3800 Km's (2200 miles) since March and I'll be due for my 2nd oil change 17 Sep. This may seem excessive but I have no choice but to go with the 3 month intervals rather than 5000 Km's as I'll never put that many Km's on between oil changes. Up here it's a $150 oil change by the dealer. To me this is of no concern because I have it as part of my warranty (20 changes over 5 years).

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Amant, thanks for clarifying :)
I usually change mine around 3000 miles. I'll only use Chrysler oil and filters as long as it's on warranty "just in case" :scared1:
 

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. . . thought some people might find it an interesting read
Agreed. Please note:

(quoting from that very website)
"That means your warranty stands when you use AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants.

Vehicle manufacturers recommend lubricants according to their viscosity grade and service classification. Any Oils, whether it ’s conventional petroleum motor Oils or synthetic, meeting the correct viscosity grade,5W-30 for example, and the current API SL and ILSAC GF-3 North American service classifications may be used without affecting warranty coverage."

Chrysler cannot require Mobil1. They can require 0W-40. They have to show that improper oil caused any failure to deny a claim. But once they claim its the oil, you're reduced to fighting a lawsuit to get your claim covered.

I don't know anything about Amsoil - and don't care. I'd say people should stick to 0W-40, and use whatever brand they like that meets that specification.


(BTW: I have personally written briefs and argued before courts on the issue of the MMWA)
 

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Take it for what it is worth.

Mercedes Benz Specification 229.5 is where the oil REQUIREMENT comes from for the SRT-8 6.1L engine. Not all the oils on the 229.5 spec that are listed as meeting it are 0W-40 oils. DCX cannot force you to use 0W-40 Mobile 1, but you better use one of the oils that specifically meets the 229.5 specification.

One a intersting note, make sure the oil filter you choose also is COMPATIBLE with the oil. If you read the 229.5 Spec carefully, you will that it requires a fleece based filter. I would be very cautious with non-DCX filters until you know for sure.

Todd
 

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If you're purchasing oil, it's 7 litres, but the manual calls for 6.6 Litres for an oil change. At the cost of 0W-40 synthetic, you want to save every last drop!

Dante!
 
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