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Potential end to Ford vs Holden duopoly

Release date: 21/05/2008

V8 Supercars Chief Executive Officer, Wayne Cattach, has confirmed that V8 Supercars Australia is investigating possible rule changes which could make the series more attractive to other manufacturers.

He also floated the idea of introducing larger capacity engines to the category and ruled out making Supercars less powerful.

While Cattach said there had been no rule changes made yet, he said they might eventually become a reality.

“What's happened is there's probably a change of attitudes,” he said.
“The door is open for discussion and whether these discussions will lead to common ground (or not)… is yet to be resolved.”

Cattach acknowledged that the category had previously focussed on the Red versus Blue rivalry.

“We now think we should look a little more broadly,” he said.
“It might be a good thing to engage in discussions with other manufacturers, not that we are currently speaking with other manufacturers at the moment.

“Would we be receptive? Well, yes. We see no problems in engaging them in some discussions.”

Cattach stressed that nothing was set in stone.
“There's nothing right now going on that would suggest we were going to go down that path,” he said.

The idea to introduce other manufacturers to the category has come at an ideal time, with V8 Supercars Australia looking into cutting costs by introducing more control parts on the cars.

But should one or more other manufacturers be introduced down the track, Cattach said there would definitely be some non-negotiable terms for entry to the category.

“What's not negotiable is it has to be some from of V8 engine,” he said.
“The sound of the cars is very important to our fans.”

Cattach said cars in the V8 Supercar category should also look like the road car they are modelled off.

“We also want to maintain the swinging panels,” he said.
“Unlike in NASCAR where the drivers enter through the windows, we want bonnets and doors that open and we want them looking like cars that are road cars.”

Cattach said one change could include moving from the current pushrod engines used in the Falcons and Commodores to a quadcam engine.
“There could be a case to go for a more modern engine, perhaps longer lasting, and probably that means there is room somewhere in the future to use a larger capacity engine that doesn't work as hard,” he said.

“It's not being discussed at the moment, but I think it's an option that should be looked at when determining what the cars might look like in the future"

http://www.v8supercar.com.au/content...olden_duopoly/

 

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Now that would be good, bring it on.
 

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Aerodynamics and weight aside, I'd love to see a few Dodge Charger SRT-8's on the track. The 300C's don't quite say 'track racing' to me.
 

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The formula needs a massive freshen up but the current teams and involved parties will NOT be interested - it will cost them money and will create CHANGE. The last thing they want is to have to fork out for more R&D and new parts (or complete drivetrains!).

They will also argue that such a change will affect the "quality of racing"... :dead1:

Personally I lost interested in the series many years ago! :biggrin:
 

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I think they are just covering their options. If the new Falcon fails in sales and Ford H.Q. can it in two years time as they have threatened, then the V8 Supercar organisers have a one horse race. (Thats if you believe that currently its Ford racing Holden)
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wont ever happen. All Ford and Holdens run Ford 9 inch diffs..hollinger gearboxes...same suspension...same wheels and tyres...and 5 litre engines...nothing of which comes out in any factory Ford or Holden that you can buy off the showroom floor.

If Chrysler were to join there would be nothing left of the 300c but the bare shell ...like the Ford's and Holden's that are currently racing. Would be a real shame to see if it did ever happen.

I would like to see V8 supercars go back to the days of old where they could only race what they sold..exactly the same except for a few extra safety mods like rollcages etc. The GTR skylines and Ford Sierras are what caused the merg into the current 'everything has to be equal' V8 supercar racing, and its a shame that Ford/Holden created their own race rather than build their cars with better brakes/suspension and more powerful engines to compete with the Jap and European competition.
 

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The only potential manufacturer to even contemplate a move into this type of racing will be Toyota, as we have seen with NASCAR in the US.
All other manufacturers have ruled it out as the total car sales in Australia
would not warrant the expense.
 

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Totally agree that manufacturers should only race cars which are the same specs in their showroom. (plus few safety measures) It would certainly draw more people into motor sport.
 

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wont ever happen. All Ford and Holdens run Ford 9 inch diffs..hollinger gearboxes...same suspension...same wheels and tyres...and 5 litre engines...nothing of which comes out in any factory Ford or Holden that you can buy off the showroom floor.

If Chrysler were to join there would be nothing left of the 300c but the bare shell ...like the Ford's and Holden's that are currently racing. Would be a real shame to see if it did ever happen.

I would like to see V8 supercars go back to the days of old where they could only race what they sold..exactly the same except for a few extra safety mods like rollcages etc. The GTR skylines and Ford Sierras are what caused the merg into the current 'everything has to be equal' V8 supercar racing, and its a shame that Ford/Holden created their own race rather than build their cars with better brakes/suspension and more powerful engines to compete with the Jap and European competition.
There is the Production series which is showroom versions of multiple makes and models with minor tweaks for racing safety.

I also don't quite agree with Ford/Holden not building cars to compete performance wise, both Ford with their Turbo and Holden with their V8, plus of course FPV & HSV, are both forging ahead.
 

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Won't happen as the new Nissan GTR would eat them all up.
 

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Potential end to Ford vs Holden duopoly

Release date: 21/05/2008

V8 Supercars Chief Executive Officer, Wayne Cattach, has confirmed that V8 Supercars Australia is investigating possible rule changes which could make the series more attractive to other manufacturers.

He also floated the idea of introducing larger capacity engines to the category and ruled out making Supercars less powerful.

While Cattach said there had been no rule changes made yet, he said they might eventually become a reality.

“What's happened is there's probably a change of attitudes,” he said.
“The door is open for discussion and whether these discussions will lead to common ground (or not)… is yet to be resolved.”

Cattach acknowledged that the category had previously focussed on the Red versus Blue rivalry.

“We now think we should look a little more broadly,” he said.
“It might be a good thing to engage in discussions with other manufacturers, not that we are currently speaking with other manufacturers at the moment.

“Would we be receptive? Well, yes. We see no problems in engaging them in some discussions.”

Cattach stressed that nothing was set in stone.
“There's nothing right now going on that would suggest we were going to go down that path,” he said.

The idea to introduce other manufacturers to the category has come at an ideal time, with V8 Supercars Australia looking into cutting costs by introducing more control parts on the cars.

But should one or more other manufacturers be introduced down the track, Cattach said there would definitely be some non-negotiable terms for entry to the category.

“What's not negotiable is it has to be some from of V8 engine,” he said.
“The sound of the cars is very important to our fans.”

Cattach said cars in the V8 Supercar category should also look like the road car they are modelled off.

“We also want to maintain the swinging panels,” he said.
“Unlike in NASCAR where the drivers enter through the windows, we want bonnets and doors that open and we want them looking like cars that are road cars.”

Cattach said one change could include moving from the current pushrod engines used in the Falcons and Commodores to a quadcam engine.
“There could be a case to go for a more modern engine, perhaps longer lasting, and probably that means there is room somewhere in the future to use a larger capacity engine that doesn't work as hard,” he said.

“It's not being discussed at the moment, but I think it's an option that should be looked at when determining what the cars might look like in the future"

http://www.v8supercar.com.au/content...olden_duopoly/

One good thing is it would silence the stuff that I cop from my ex Holden mats about being the safty car when the 300 came across the finish line first.
 
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