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Hey Guys,

Well washed and dried my 05 vanilla baby tonite. then broke out the quick detailer spray.

I soon disovered THREE very small chips in the paint. This is my only disappointment, the quality of the factory paint job on almost a 40K car.

Had it since last November and always garage kept. Just broke the 2000 mile mark today.

Any advice or ideas to minimize the chips? I'm afraid to drive her now.

Shiva

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Get splash guards

You can have them painted you color if you want.

Other than that, chips are a fact of life, unfortunately

Also 3M Stonguard film if you can find a firm to do it in your area.
 

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Don't be alarmed, I have detailed a few 300's and your paint is fine. You did not mention where the chips are, if they are on the front, its unavoidable. You can even get chips from gravel trucks on the side of your car. You have some options. One, they make a 3-m plastic film that protects the paint from chips and such, but what I Like and is a little more expensive is the process that body shops are using. It is a special clear coat desgined to repel stones and prevent chips on your car. It goes on like clear, looks like clear but is much stronger and durable. I found out about it at a recent seminar from a pro body man. He says its the latest thing for chip prevention. Cost on the 3-m kit around $600, cost of the "touph clear" around $2500. YOU will see lines on the film, the clear blends in perfectly. p.s. I detailed a lamboghini last week worth $300,000 and I found 3 flaws in the paint. To me that is unacceptable, they are supposed to be hand made. Gary
 

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Paint Chips

Thanks for the insight.

I have 1 chip on the hood, 1 on the roof just in front of the sunroof and one on the driver side door
 

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I also wonder if the clear on the 300 is just plain thinner than what was on my previous cars. I understand the front taking a pounding due to the shape of the car, but I have more chips in this car at 6,000 than I did on my previous 2 at 60,000. I love the black paint itself, but it could use some serious protection.
 

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You know, I never notice chips being an issue except in cars that use water based paint. I think glasurit is still less susceptible to chipping...probable related to why it's illegal to produce in the US.
 

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For quick touch up on chips without paying the big bucks for air brushing try this. Get your factory touch up paint for starters, also get few artist brushes at a craft store. At WalMart they sell pin point sanders, best way to describe is this. Take a pencil, imagion the eraser at the end the size of a pin head. I use them to sand down chips without having to effect the surrounding finish. LIghtly sand the chip. Get some laquer thinner the dip the artist brush in it, dab dry. then put the brush in the paint, dab again, touch your chip. repeat process for as many chips you have. Wait a few hours, lightly sand and buff with poilsh. You should be good to go. Gary

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You know, I never notice chips being an issue except in cars that use water based paint. I think glasurit is still less susceptible to chipping...probable related to why it's illegal to produce in the US.
 

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... it provides a viscosity and surface tension that allows the touch up paint to go on without "globing" and to fill the void more evenly. DOne right, there is very little or no work needed to finish the job (but it take experience to get it that close on the first attempt).
 

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shiva_va said:
Hey Guys,

Well washed and dried my 05 vanilla baby tonite. then broke out the quick detailer spray.

I soon disovered THREE very small chips in the paint. This is my only disappointment, the quality of the factory paint job on almost a 40K car.
Not much you can do about it and I'm sure the paint is just as good quality as any other major manufacturuer.

I had 3 chips after the first month, how do you think I feel. Especially considering the primer is white and I have a black car.

Oh well. Just keep in mind the durability of the paint is all in relation to the speed, size, and velocity of the stone. ;)


Any advice or ideas to minimize the chips? I'm afraid to drive her now.
3M stonegard. It's not cheap but then gain, neither is a new paint job.
 

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Jhelmuth, Thanks for posting that answer on the thinner, I was up to my ears today in cars. I tell people I'm booked up till next week, and they drop the car off anyway???? what are they thinking? gary
 

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Before you break out the sandpaper to go over touched-up chips, try this instead:

Prepare the chip by cleaning well with a wax remover. I sell a good one by Wurth called Clean Solve, but 3M sells a good one called Prep Solve I think. Any good paint supply store will have it, for removing wax and prepping for painting to cut down on fisheyes. I like using this instead of paint thinner because it is more gentle.

If necessary use the neat sanding sticks that Gary talks about from Wal Mart.

Finally, with a fine brush lay in some paint, but don't worry about making it neat. If you have several chips in the same small area, do them all, but if just one chip here and one chip somewhere else, do one chip at a time.

Before the paint has a chance to dry any, take a clean cloth saturated (not dripping, but wet) with the solvent. Lightly rub over the chip. What will happen is you will remove any paint outside the chip, and you should leave a layer of paint inside the chip. The solvent won't harm the factory paint.

Wipe with a soft dry cloth to buff to a shine. You may need to do this a couple of times to fill in the chip most of the way.

I have done this on several cars and it is MUCH faster than trying to lay in the paint carefully, or sanding it down after you fill it in and get it outside the chip. Plus any sandpaper that touches the finish means you will spend quite a bit of time getting the shine back.

My method fills in the chip so it is very hard to see, takes almost NO time, and does no harm to the finish. Give it a try, if you don't like the look, you can always do it the hard way.

This method won't work for really big chips, because you will wipe out most of the paint. And it won't work for really shallow chips or scratches, but give it a try. Maybe try a very thin cloth to wipe off the paint, stretched over a small block of wood so you don't go into the chip so much.

Oh and about water based paint, it is the mandated standard now. For EPA reasons, factories can't use solvent based paint anymore.
 

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Anyone with Orange Peel

After waxing my C this past week, I noticed that probably 80 percent of the paint has some serious orange peel in it. Not sure if it is orange peel, but that is what I call it.

The hood is fine, and the roof seems to be ok, but the sides and the trunk look as though it was painted over a very rough surface. The paint feels smooth to the touch, but when you look at it from a slight angle, you can see all the bumps all over the place. Best way to describe it is like its been textured.

Anyone else have this?


Shawn
 

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One thing you should do to improve the finish would be to clay the car. Sometimes what seems to be orange peel is just micro contaminants on the car which can easily be removed. Gary
 
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