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Is the Sound Group II work the extra money? I am looking to buy a 300C and one dealer has a car with the Sound Group II as part of the Nav system and the other dealer doesn't.

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SGII is not part of the NAV, I have SG1, according to many SGII is not worth the money and I'm glad I did not get it. It has the same cheap paper whizzer cone speakers as SGI, I doubt it really makes 380 watts, and the sub is a measly 8". Spend your money on PGII, the window curtains may save your life see www.carsafety.org and check out the side impact results for Camry and Accord for a chilling reason for curtains. Also get the HID headlights, worth more than the asking price.
 

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It is hard to know what you are getting with SGII unless you sit and listen to both sound systems. I bought the SGII because I would always wonder, and likely regret, what I might be missing. I like to blast my music so I figured the more expensive system probably sounds better. I am too lazy and hesitant to mess around with finding a better system and having someone install it. I have played music at about 90%/95% volume and there wasn't any distortion that I could notice. I am very happy and satisfied with the SGII.
 

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I agree. Unless a true audiofile or just someone with specific needs, I find the SGII to provide everything I need in car audio.
 

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II kings 9:20 said:
SGII is not part of the NAV, I have SG1, according to many SGII is not worth the money and I'm glad I did not get it. It has the same cheap paper whizzer cone speakers as SGI, I doubt it really makes 380 watts, and the sub is a measly 8". Spend your money on PGII, the window curtains may save your life see www.carsafety.org and check out the side impact results for Camry and Accord for a chilling reason for curtains. Also get the HID headlights, worth more than the asking price.
Just go and listen, then decide.
 

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Just some thought!

For those that wan't a serious system SGII is not for you. For those that just wan't a little better than normal SGII is for you.

I don't see myself upgrading my SGII because I just don't need it, but I wanted SGII because I wanted a little more power than what usaully stock systems provide.

to end it all, if any car I buy has an option for a better audio system I'll take it becuase bone stock is usaully pretty bad.
 

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joey said:
It is hard to know what you are getting with SGII unless you sit and listen to both sound systems. I bought the SGII because I would always wonder, and likely regret, what I might be missing. I like to blast my music so I figured the more expensive system probably sounds better. I am too lazy and hesitant to mess around with finding a better system and having someone install it. I have played music at about 90%/95% volume and there wasn't any distortion that I could notice. I am very happy and satisfied with the SGII.
After years of listening to music at 90%/95% volume it's no wonder you don't notice any distortion (not that there is any to be heard). And maybe, someday, you won't hear the vehicle that hits you either.
 

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There are better systems to buy, but I am happy with SGII.
 

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Before deciding on the actual upgrades/options that I wanted, I actually listened to all of the available 300/300C Sound Groups. Since SIRIUS is still in its infancy stages and the navigation system wasn't really a necessity for me, I opted for the amplified AM/FM/MP3/6-CD Changer/Cassette 'Boston Acoustics' system? Besides, I can legally make all of the .mp3 discs (music without advertising) that I want, 'Map Quest' is free, and 'The Thomas Guide' is only a few bucks. Since I also wanted the cassette tape option so that I can still play my library of old cassette tapes, as well as to also utilize my personal MP3 player via a cassette adapter, I therefore opted for the SGII option. I actually would have received the navigation system if the deal on the 'Signature Touring' model didn't fall through...the Orange County dealer wanted almost as much for it as what others are asking for a 300C, and they also refused to let the vehicle become part of a 'dealer trade'. I eventually decided to equip my car with the upgraded (non-GPS) system. Although I've never really played my music excessively loud, I still think that this particular system still sounds much better than the standard system and I'm glad that I made the decision.
 

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Has anyone with SGII noticed the cd player menus get "stuck" sometimes while playing a track - won't respond to any buttons until cycling power?
 

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cmego said:
Has anyone with SGII noticed the cd player menus get "stuck" sometimes while playing a track - won't respond to any buttons until cycling power?
Not quite sure I understand what you mean by 'cd menus get stuck'. Could you elaborate?
 

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Like the others have said.....how is you ear?? If you like to differentiate between highs, mids and lows and pure digital clarity is a must.... get SGI and then go aftermarket. welcome and the best to u.

cmego, I do not have the 'stuck' problem.
 

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I was perfcetly happy with my sgII and so was everyone that got in the car. All have been impressed....

I thought I had never had such a good sound system...that is until I started reading the posts of people who were switching things out and how great new speakers would sound. Now I have spent hours going to best buy, circuit city and local audio shops. At first just to upgrade a couple of dash speakers for $50. But once I started, all the sudden I found myself needing 4 6x9's, And if I'm doing that, then it makes sense to get an aditional amp, then maybe a new sub...
frustrating. I went from switching out a couple of speakers on my own to estimates as much as 4 grand...

I think I'll just try to recapture that ignorant bliss that I had before I was told my sytem sucked....
 

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myrtle300c said:
I was perfcetly happy with my sgII and so was everyone that got in the car. All have been impressed....

I thought I had never had such a good sound system...that is until I started reading the posts of people who were switching things out and how great new speakers would sound. Now I have spent hours going to best buy, circuit city and local audio shops. At first just to upgrade a couple of dash speakers for $50. But once I started, all the sudden I found myself needing 4 6x9's, And if I'm doing that, then it makes sense to get an aditional amp, then maybe a new sub...
frustrating. I went from switching out a couple of speakers on my own to estimates as much as 4 grand...

I think I'll just try to recapture that ignorant bliss that I had before I was told my sytem sucked....
GOOD THINKIN'!
If one is such an effcianato (spelling?) why is one critiqueing audio sound in a moving automobile?
 

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myrtle300c,

I hear ya. I've been up and down the road. I have SGII and Nav. I have an amp and 2 MTX 10's in a box on the floor in the garage from my old car. I bought Diamond Audio 3.5's and installed them in the dash - and disconnected the center. I like my music between 18 and 25 on the volume dial and my musical range from Hip Hop to Country to Nat King Cole.
Try unplugging the center first - it made a big difference for me and I'm totally happy now with the system. Enough that I stopped obsessing with installing my sub and 6x9's. In fact I think it sounds better than the 4k I spent on my other car!!

Now I obsess with other stuff!!
Wheels, intakes, jet chip/super chip...etc etc.

**Just got aspendogs armrests today - WOOHOO!!!!
 

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Good idea 5point7, I'll give it a shot.
 
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