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Just finished e-talking with my salesman on the holdup for the build on my car. He said there is a problem with all the engines in the SRT-8's in regards to overheating. They are trying to resolve this problem and that is the reason they are so slow going into production. Anyone else hear of this?
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qictrk said:
Just finished e-talking with my salesman on the holdup for the build on my car. He said there is a problem with all the engines in the SRT-8's in regards to overheating. They are trying to resolve this problem and that is the reason they are so slow going into production. Anyone else hear of this?
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What do you think Jimminy?

 

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Sounds like sales guy bull to me. They quite often make shit up to cover for complete ignorance. One SRT-4 buyer was told (by a salesguy who had only blue and red) that there were issues with SRT-4s and silver paint, so don't get one of those:)

Think this through, if ALL of the motors were overheating, might not our local SRT-8 owners have mentioned it? I know a salesguy told me he expected info on the Charger around July, never mind the fact that the car gets sent to dealers this month.

Ignore salesguy babble.
 

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Being that I drove mine 24 hours straight, the last 6 being in heavey traffic and 80 plus degrees, and the needle never moved past 204 (middle), I am not buyin it.
 

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My sales guy left message on my phone last night saying the only thing holding up the car at this point is the Kicker system---once that's settled-car is a go. I'm inclined to support the sales bull perspective.
 

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Well, mine overheated just yesterday and darn neared boiled all the coolant out. Called the dealer and he said I was not the first one to see this and a recall is coming soon, which will require removing the radiator and some piping to replace it with a larger capacity system. Good news is while at the dealer, they will install the kicker system at no charge.

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My sales guy left message on my phone last night saying the only thing holding up the car at this point is the Kicker system---once that's settled-car is a go. I'm inclined to support the sales bull perspective.
What part of PA are you in? Who is your dealer? Kicker is no longer an issue. I did here from a credible source that there was an issue at the plant, a small one that they had to correct. Don't know what it was, but I am sure it was nothing too crazy.
 

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No problem here.

It will run above the mid-point during typical LA traffic but never anywhere near the red. Sounds like the dealer is trying to buy some time.
 

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qictrk said:
Just finished e-talking with my salesman on the holdup for the build on my car. He said there is a problem with all the engines in the SRT-8's in regards to overheating. They are trying to resolve this problem and that is the reason they are so slow going into production. Anyone else hear of this?
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What a load of hooey. Let me guess - you're in "bx" status? You, my friend, are being strung along.
 

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some salesguy babble...... we are not all like that.
Steve

I don't think glhs837 was directly or indirectly "having a go" at you. With all the knowlegeable and well-connected people on the forum, I am sure that you do your very best to make sure that, all your statements are not open to criticism.

However this is a very disappointing industry wide problem. My attempts to discuss whether to purchase a 300c or a Magnum with a salesperson ( in this case it was a woman) - and before you all get up and try and swat me for saying that - I had taken her to the limit of her knowledge, so she brought in a guy, to help her. Then the problems began - we were discussing the differences and I said they were built on the same platform - and he said " no they are totally different cars" then his buddy chimed in "and the Magnum with a towing package has less cargo area than the standard Magnum because the shocks are bigger, and they had to change the body"

My answer after a confirmation that they were wrong was "no sale because I no longer trust what you say". I walked out knowing that I could always go back to the sales manager if I needed to. I also thought that 99% of other customers would have accepted what they said - It was said with such convincing confidence. So I moved on to the next dealer.

After, I considered the possibility that these guys were trying to screw the saleswoman over - but maybe that is being generous to them - really think they were just bullshi**ing.

DCX dealer salespeople on this forum have to get it right because they are held to such a high standard by the forum members - in the outside world DCX should be doing this for the general public- there are many ways they could do this - one that comes to mind is the - "company buyer" with an assessment that gives or takes away something from the dealer dependant on truth and accuracy.

The whole industry needs a shakeup. They produce these marvelous products and then market them through a system that, (with some exceptions) abuses the public.

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Steve

I don't think glhs837 was directly or indirectly "having a go" at you. With all the knowlegeable and well-connected people on the forum, I am sure that you do your very best to make sure that, all your statements are not open to criticism.

However this is a very disappointing industry wide problem. My attempts to discuss whether to purchase a 300c or a Magnum with a salesperson ( in this case it was a woman) - and before you all get up and try and swat me for saying that - I had taken her to the limit of her knowledge, so she brought in a guy, to help her. Then the problems began - we were discussing the differences and I said they were built on the same platform - and he said " no they are totally different cars" then his buddy chimed in "and the Magnum with a towing package has less cargo area than the standard Magnum because the shocks are bigger, and they had to change the body"

My answer after a confirmation that they were wrong was "no sale because I no longer trust what you say". I walked out knowing that I could always go back to the sales manager if I needed to. I also thought that 99% of other customers would have accepted what they said - It was said with such convincing confidence. So I moved on to the next dealer.

After, I considered the possibility that these guys were trying to srcew the saleswoman over - but maybe that is being generous to them - really think they were just bullshi**ing.

DCX dealer salespeople on this forum have to get it right because they are held to such a high standard by the forum members - in the outside world DCX should be doing this for the general public- there are many ways they could do this - one that comes to mind is the - "company buyer" with an assessment that gives or takes away something from the dealer dependant on truth and accuracy.

The whole industry needs a shakeup. They produce these marvelous products and then market them through a system that, (with some exceptions) abuses the public.

Zilla
When I put the deposit down on my SRT-8 at the dealership, some young dealer punk when I was walking out said: "You know, that's the same motor they put in the 93 Viper." about the SRT-8.

I didn't even know what to say, I didn't even know where to begin. All I could do was say "oh yeah?" and walk away trying not to laugh my ass off!
 

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qictrk said:
Just finished e-talking with my salesman on the holdup for the build on my car. He said there is a problem with all the engines in the SRT-8's in regards to overheating. They are trying to resolve this problem and that is the reason they are so slow going into production. Anyone else hear of this?
Cecil...........
Ironically, I popped my hood today to show one of my colleagues the beautiful engine and I noticed what appears to be coolant on top of everything on the right-hand side of the engine compartment. I'll have to take a closer look when I get home, but I was quite alarmed! :eek:

Has anybody else seen this?
 

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No but....

you bet your ass I'm gonna check!!!
 

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Ordered 2/17/05, had Kicker but is now off the build and I'm in D status. If two people already have had problem, just from this short time, on the board, there may indeed be a problem. We'll have to wait and see if something further comes of it in the next couple of days. If not, then the salesman is either misinformed or like you say, full of it. Cecil...........
 

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Do they not test these cars before going to market, the gang that could'nt shoot straight is going to shoot themselves right in the foot, regardless of the yang the dealer is dishing out, some of these cars are overheating, that is a fact that can not be disputed. That is very poor in this day and age. Ever hear of this kind of nonsense from Lexus or Infiniti? I do not understand this lack of attention to detail and an apparent use of Joe public buyer to field test the car and figure out a solution to whatever pops up often times on your own. These guys build a spectacular product and time and time again quality glitches trip them up. A sad commentary on American industry, think Ford is any better, 11 recalls on the first year Focus, (none in the last two years).
 

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I have not an opinion whether this is an SRT8 problem -- yet

But I do have experience with overheating in overbored engines. The SRT8 has large overbore - and a specially strengthened block. I had one particular engine of mine overbored to give a 10% increase in capacity.

Together with the other comprehensive modifications to the engine, it produced slightly more than 50% power - over stock.

I had expected to have to recore the rad so I did - and fitted a high capacity water pump - still overheated. It was a non-injected engine so I eliminated the thermostat, and installed a factory-race insert which slowed the water enough to allow it to give the best balance of water velocity through the rad for optimal cooling - still overheated - I remember one particularly bad summer boil-over, in the lineup for customs at the US/Canada border. Another occured after climbing a long steep hill at speed.

This was eventually solved by fitting a larger engine oil cooler which also took some extra heat away from the engine, and fitting a fairly large additional coolant radiator.

I figured apart from the extra heat caused by the extra power, that thinner cylinder walls allowed faster and greater heat transfer to directly to the coolant. The original cooling capacity did not have adequate enough a "heat sink" capacity to allow for all conditions.

It would be interesting for SRT8 owners to track the coolant temperature at times of continued stress - particularly in hotter climates.

If I owned an SRT8 and this doubt was hanging over me that's what I would do, to help me eliminate or confirm this as a potential cause of any problem.

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